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Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am Usual suspects demonstrating once again they have little understanding of how the transfer committee works, still.

Is the answer ‘ineffectively’?

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am Usual suspects demonstrating once again they have little understanding of how the transfer committee works, still.

Please enlighten everyone…

Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:18 am

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:31 pm No wonder things are going wrong , it should be Richie naming the players he wants not having names put forward to him.
Will our club ever get this right ?

I'd be very surprised if Rob Hunt was suggested by the transfer committee and not Richie, likewise George Moncur, so I think he is having his say. That said expecting a Manger to manage the team, analyse the last match, study forthcoming opposition, and then go on a tour of Britain looking for players is not practical, so some help is needed looking for future talent. As long as Richie has the final say which it appears he does I'm happy. Whether he's being offered a pile of talent or a pile of cack is a different discussion.

Agree with this. Richie has said that he wants to focus on what he’s here for, managing. He hasn’t got time to watch thousands of players, scout them etc… I’m sure he knows some players that he wants and in those cases, he tells Ling and he sorts them rest.

I’m no fan of Ling but the process makes sense to me. However, the problem seems to not be in the process, it’s in the quality of player coming back out of it to Richie. Whether that’s a budget issue or that we are scouting the wrong players/not doing a very good job of matching criteria to players, I don’t know.

We’ve got about 2 weeks to sort this. Everyone should be in a room, including Richie and spending every afternoon going through players until we sort it

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:36 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:31 pm

LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:27 pm He rejected 6 of them according to Nigel Travers.

At least we know who's in charge and he knows what he wants.

In Richie we trust.

No wonder things are going wrong , it should be Richie naming the players he wants not having names put forward to him.
Will our club ever get this right ?

Will you ever stop moaning?

He has a point though surely?

Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:16 am

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:36 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:31 pm

No wonder things are going wrong , it should be Richie naming the players he wants not having names put forward to him.
Will our club ever get this right ?

Will you ever stop moaning?

He has a point though surely?

The thing is that if PoundO ever has a reasonable point it gets lost in the morass of non-stop negativity and complaining. With regard to this current whinge, well, it's based on hearsay and his one constant - that the club is always wrong. Christ it's boring.......

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:38 am

We’ve got about 2 weeks to sort this. Everyone should be in a room, including Richie and spending every afternoon going through players until we sort it

Sod that. Just hand this one over to Richie to get it sorted, even if it means taking his eye off of other matters just for a little while.

The bottom line is last season that scenario came uncomfortably close to costing us relegation . Only Otis Khan was decent and now all six have left the club . How much money did that cost the club. I'd rather keep a player like Connor Wood and go out on a limb and get that CDM that Rhicie wants. If we're unable to sign his first choice we go for his second and so on . I think the money would be better to spent there rather than wasting it on six muppets in January . I don't like this idea of our transfer committee seemingly choosing a small group of players and telling the manager ' Pick one of them ". It should be Richie's decision what players we approach and with all due respect not our faarking transfer committee

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am In doing so Travis has highlighted what a total waste of time the transfer committee is, 6 out of 7 rejected shows they haven’t got a clue.

Spot on …

It’s the one thing I’ve hated about our club,
Let the manager choose who he wants, you’ve
only go back to the jan transfer window to
see how pointless the committee is and whilst
it’s allowed to continue a small proportion of
substandard players will be allowed to join our club ..
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you only hate one thing about our club???

not sure you'll fit in on this board

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am In doing so Travis has highlighted what a total waste of time the transfer committee is, 6 out of 7 rejected shows they haven’t got a clue.

Spot on …

It’s the one thing I’ve hated about our club,
Let the manager choose who he wants, you’ve
only go back to the jan transfer window to
see how pointless the committee is and whilst
it’s allowed to continue a small proportion of
substandard players will be allowed to join our club ..
[/quote]

Of course our transfer committee hasn't got a clue about players . With the greatest of respect because I think they are great guys who I believe were heaven sent to save our club but they know jack about players . Leave our player targets to Richie . I thought that was one of the reasons why the club hired him . Back Richie even rather and let him get on with the job

Surely the committee is a sign off process?
Richie says I want this position with these attributes
Ling checks the budget and gets sign off if more money is needed
The scouts go out and find players that work within that budget and alongside what Richie wants
Richie says yes
The committee get the info on the player and why we are signing him then sign off or don’t

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:39 am

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am In doing so Travis has highlighted what a total waste of time the transfer committee is, 6 out of 7 rejected shows they haven’t got a clue.

Spot on …

It’s the one thing I’ve hated about our club,
Let the manager choose who he wants, you’ve
only go back to the jan transfer window to
see how pointless the committee is and whilst
it’s allowed to continue a small proportion of
substandard players will be allowed to join our club ..

Of course our transfer committee hasn't got a clue about players . With the greatest of respect because I think they are great guys who I believe were heaven sent to save our club but they know jack about players . Leave our player targets to Richie . I thought that was one of the reasons why the club hired him . Back Richie even rather and let him get on with the job
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Totally agree.

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:04 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:39 am

Hedmans Header wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am In doing so Travis has highlighted what a total waste of time the transfer committee is, 6 out of 7 rejected shows they haven’t got a clue.

Spot on …

It’s the one thing I’ve hated about our club,
Let the manager choose who he wants, you’ve
only go back to the jan transfer window to
see how pointless the committee is and whilst
it’s allowed to continue a small proportion of
substandard players will be allowed to join our club ..

Of course our transfer committee hasn't got a clue about players . With the greatest of respect because I think they are great guys who I believe were heaven sent to save our club but they know jack about players . Leave our player targets to Richie . I thought that was one of the reasons why the club hired him . Back Richie even rather and let him get on with the job

Totally agree.
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James Drinan Archibald Beckles Vigourox they are useless signings

Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:25 pm Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Moncur 3 grand a week 3 year deal

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:27 am Usual suspects demonstrating once again they have little understanding of how the transfer committee works, still.

Hence my oft used term " HALF WITS "

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:18 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:04 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:39 am

Spot on …

It’s the one thing I’ve hated about our club,
Let the manager choose who he wants, you’ve
only go back to the jan transfer window to
see how pointless the committee is and whilst
it’s allowed to continue a small proportion of
substandard players will be allowed to join our club ..

Of course our transfer committee hasn't got a clue about players . With the greatest of respect because I think they are great guys who I believe were heaven sent to save our club but they know jack about players . Leave our player targets to Richie . I thought that was one of the reasons why the club hired him . Back Richie even rather and let him get on with the job

Totally agree.

James Drinan Archibald Beckles Vigourox they are useless signings
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On the other hand...

Reilly, Moss, Coleman, Brown, Ray, Khan, Freeman, Abrahams, Sterling, Marsh (as a CM)

What's telling in that particular list is how many poor CM signings are in there. Definitely an area they get it wrong far more than right. I'd back Wellens' judgement over the scouts / committee every time.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:25 pm Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Slade must've been a superhero in that case, how did he manage to function without a committee

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:18 pm

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:18 pm

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:04 pm

Of course our transfer committee hasn't got a clue about players . With the greatest of respect because I think they are great guys who I believe were heaven sent to save our club but they know jack about players . Leave our player targets to Richie . I thought that was one of the reasons why the club hired him . Back Richie even rather and let him get on with the job

Only Coleman Reilly Brown Khan we’re signing s the other 6 were loans
Totally agree.

James Drinan Archibald Beckles Vigourox they are useless signings

On the other hand...

Reilly, Moss, Coleman, Brown, Ray, Khan, Freeman, Abrahams, Sterling, Marsh (as a CM)

What's telling in that particular list is how many poor CM signings are in there. Definitely an area they get it wrong far more than right. I'd back Wellens' judgement over the scouts / committee every time.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:25 pm Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Slade must've been a superhero in that case, how did he manage to function without a committee
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Only Reilly Coleman Brown & Khan we’re signing s the other 6 were loans

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:30 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:18 pm

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:18 pm
Only Coleman Reilly Brown Khan we’re signing s the other 6 were loans
Totally agree.

James Drinan Archibald Beckles Vigourox they are useless signings

On the other hand...

Reilly, Moss, Coleman, Brown, Ray, Khan, Freeman, Abrahams, Sterling, Marsh (as a CM)

What's telling in that particular list is how many poor CM signings are in there. Definitely an area they get it wrong far more than right. I'd back Wellens' judgement over the scouts / committee every time.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:25 pm Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Slade must've been a superhero in that case, how did he manage to function without a committee

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Got it in one, we don’t need a committee just need to listen to RW and bring in who he wants.
Definitely a case of too many cooks.

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:34 pm Only Reilly Coleman Brown & Khan we’re signing s the other 6 were loans

That's alright then. At least we could send Nobble and Moss and that sh*t CB straight back.

Weren’t we supposed to have New CDM within 40 hours of FGR game???

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:30 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:18 pm

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:18 pm
Only Coleman Reilly Brown Khan we’re signing s the other 6 were loans
Totally agree.

James Drinan Archibald Beckles Vigourox they are useless signings

On the other hand...

Reilly, Moss, Coleman, Brown, Ray, Khan, Freeman, Abrahams, Sterling, Marsh (as a CM)

What's telling in that particular list is how many poor CM signings are in there. Definitely an area they get it wrong far more than right. I'd back Wellens' judgement over the scouts / committee every time.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:25 pm Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Slade must've been a superhero in that case, how did he manage to function without a committee

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He had a smaller pool of players to choose from. Anyone who would cost any money was vetoed by Hearn from the outset

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:04 pm Weren’t we supposed to have New CDM within 40 hours of FGR game???

Yes, that’s what Richie said. If not today then maybe we’ll sign a midfielder tomorrow in time for the Mansfield game

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:31 pm

Stan1972 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:04 pm Weren’t we supposed to have New CDM within 40 hours of FGR game???

Yes, that’s what Richie said. If not today then maybe we’ll sign a midfielder tomorrow in time for the Mansfield game

Tick tock the clock is ticking again as O’s summer transfer CDM saga continues…

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:39 pm

DaveDunmore wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:30 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:18 pm
James Drinan Archibald Beckles Vigourox they are useless signings

On the other hand...

Reilly, Moss, Coleman, Brown, Ray, Khan, Freeman, Abrahams, Sterling, Marsh (as a CM)

What's telling in that particular list is how many poor CM signings are in there. Definitely an area they get it wrong far more than right. I'd back Wellens' judgement over the scouts / committee every time.

Monkey Boy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:25 pm Of course the transfer committee haven’t a clue most are business men and suits and I’m no Ling supporter by any means but I think you have to look a little deeper,the scouting system that’s in place for example. Wellens can’t be expected to be in two places at once and has to rely on scouting reports plus I would think Ling has the final say before it gets to Wellens and the club will always put the cheapest option first.

Slade must've been a superhero in that case, how did he manage to function without a committee

Got it in one, we don’t need a committee just need to listen to RW and bring in who he wants.
Definitely a case of too many cooks.
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Youd think hed of opened his mouth & said "GET ME HIM" , Ithought he was a gritty NORTHENER !