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Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:17 am The situation is so farcical that any event Johnson wasn't actually present for muddies the waters for him

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:59 am At least people are clear now on the fine details of the covid rules and when/where they applied.

Last year when the parties were taking place everyone was complaining about how confusing and stupid the rules were.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:16 am According to Full Fact the garden at Downing Street isnt a public place so the rules didn't apply. I guess the same would apply to our own gardens.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:45 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:16 am According to Full Fact the garden at Downing Street isnt a public place so the rules didn't apply. I guess the same would apply to our own gardens.

The real risk here is that the rules may be used to show no laws were broken, as in the case with Cummings. Technically OK. But still wrong. And still an insult to the general public.

greyhound wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:40 pm FFS this has to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:37 am This is a very striking image that will cut through.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:09 pm
A lot of these stories now coming from the telegraph is causing me to put my tin foil hat on and think that Johnson's team is leaking these things so the enquiry can assign this all to a cultural problem impossible to pin on a single person. Can already see people getting numbed to the new revelations because there are so many of them.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:37 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:13 pm

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:25 pm

I'm guessing it was BYOB so as to try to keep it "unofficial" - not dipping in to the wine cellars (which presumably would leave a paper trail) - If food was the only thing provided, then maybe they thought they'd be able to pass the consumption off as business-related. Rather defeats the object by sending out the invites on email, mind

Might be nonsense, of course.

Bring you own avoids cross contamination from bottles. Not unusual for wine at business working events. Pretty common in fact. Not unusual for organisations to have offsite meetings, in their case they have a secure garden. Our company used a local hotel.

Possible to have a working event that includes wine and nibbles, in a social setting. Not unusual. The issues is not that, it’s if it broke Covid regulations.

It IS unusual to have alcohol in a work setting. In my day and probably yours too, as the Head of a Big Corporate it was work first and then the social. In those days we worked hard and played hard.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:28 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:37 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:13 pm

Bring you own avoids cross contamination from bottles. Not unusual for wine at business working events. Pretty common in fact. Not unusual for organisations to have offsite meetings, in their case they have a secure garden. Our company used a local hotel.

Possible to have a working event that includes wine and nibbles, in a social setting. Not unusual. The issues is not that, it’s if it broke Covid regulations.

It IS unusual to have alcohol in a work setting. In my day and probably yours too, as the Head of a Big Corporate it was work first and then the social. In those days we worked hard and played hard.

Can’t talk about your experience As a former Director in the U.K. arm of a Global Corporate Organisation, We held management meetings off-site for many reasons, alcohol in moderation and snacks not unusual. I frequently engaged in a serious business discussion over a glass of red. Also went to many seminars, exhibitions, presentations, customer visits and so on with the odd glass of wine available, sometimes offered at point of entry. No big deal. Not to get pissed but available as a social gesture to those who wanted it. None of these gatherings remotely came into the party class. That’s for sure.

Nor in fact is having a drink with a colleague moving on to pastures new. Alcohol being available does not mean it’s a party. That term is being used for pure political reasons.

The real issue here is separating what really happened with the political rhetoric. There are some serious issues to look into like have the regulations been broken, I’m not aware of alcohol being consumed being wrong under Covid regulations. I hope the review focuses on regulations. We all know that morally it was wrong. Shocking timing too. Apologies well justified. What I want to know is if laws have been broken and has Boris mislead the house.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:25 pmHe's a tool !

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:10 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:28 pm
Can’t talk about your experience As a former Director in the U.K. arm of a Global Corporate Organisation, We held management meetings off-site for many reasons, alcohol in moderation and snacks not unusual. I frequently engaged in a serious business discussion over a glass of red. Also went to many seminars, exhibitions, presentations, customer visits and so on with the odd glass of wine available, sometimes offered at point of entry. No big deal. Not to get pissed but available as a social gesture to those who wanted it. None of these gatherings remotely came into the party class. That’s for sure.

Nor in fact is having a drink with a colleague moving on to pastures new. Alcohol being available does not mean it’s a party. That term is being used for pure political reasons.

The real issue here is separating what really happened with the political rhetoric. There are some serious issues to look into like have the regulations been broken, I’m not aware of alcohol being consumed being wrong under Covid regulations. I hope the review focuses on regulations. We all know that morally it was wrong. Shocking timing too. Apologies well justified. What I want to know is if laws have been broken and has Boris mislead the house.

Blah, blah fuking blah. You even question the well documented fact that Boris is a big fat albino khunt of a LIAR.