I clean all the stuff I bring home - a bit OCD I know - but perhaps necessary. I'm sure there's just as much transmission through accidental touching of contaminated surfaces and then to nose/mouth as there is through the air.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:29 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:23 pm
Cases have been over 20k a day for about a month now without going much higher. Does this mean deaths should have peaked or be close to peaking?
Not necessarily, as I guess part of it is how hospitals in certain areas are able to cope with the impact of increased patients (including the number of non Covid patients).
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:03 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
faldO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm
Interesting analysis of test & trace data suggesting that supermarkets are the most likely place to pick up the virus:
I clean all the stuff I bring home - a bit OCD I know - but perhaps necessary. I'm sure there's just as much transmission through accidental touching of contaminated surfaces and then to nose/mouth as there is through the air.
That's where they came into contact with an infected individual only, right? And so doesn't take into account being there and picking up an item that an infected person had handled and put back earlier in the day. Agree with what you say about the transmission.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:09 pm
by Long slender neck
faldO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm
Interesting analysis of test & trace data suggesting that supermarkets are the most likely place to pick up the virus:
I clean all the stuff I bring home - a bit OCD I know - but perhaps necessary. I'm sure there's just as much transmission through accidental touching of contaminated surfaces and then to nose/mouth as there is through the air.
Unless somebody breathes, coughs or sneezes directly over you, I'm not sure there is much airborne transmission.
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:23 pm
Cases have been over 20k a day for about a month now without going much higher. Does this mean deaths should have peaked or be close to peaking?
Not necessarily, as I guess part of it is how hospitals in certain areas are able to cope with the impact of increased patients (including the number of non Covid patients).
faldO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm
Interesting analysis of test & trace data suggesting that supermarkets are the most likely place to pick up the virus:
I clean all the stuff I bring home - a bit OCD I know - but perhaps necessary. I'm sure there's just as much transmission through accidental touching of contaminated surfaces and then to nose/mouth as there is through the air.
Unless somebody breathes, coughs or sneezes directly over you, I'm not sure there is much airborne transmission.
Yes agreed, the point being that if people are picking the virus up in supermarkets and not being breathed/coughed/sneezed on they have to pick it up somehow, most likely (IMO) from touching contaminated surfaces/packages in the supermarket or from bringing something home with it on (probably less likely).
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:26 pm
by Long slender neck
I've just read the article and there's no evidence really that people are being infected in supermarkets. Of course most people would have visited one prior to a test, little else is open!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm
by Thor
The ONS report that all deaths in Oct 20 was only 8 more than the year prior and within that number is 3,357 covid deaths. Emmmm let me think about this for one moment.......
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:34 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm
The ONS report that all deaths in Oct 20 was only 8 more than the year prior and within that number is 3,357 covid deaths. Emmmm let me think about this for one moment.......
Jesus dont think Thor
Weve had enough to deal with this year !!!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:47 pm
by Long slender neck
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm
The ONS report that all deaths in Oct 20 was only 8 more than the year prior and within that number is 3,357 covid deaths. Emmmm let me think about this for one moment.......
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:33 pm
But we're only the worst by that one metric, which as pointed out several times is not a particularly useful one when comparing countries.
Irrelevant metric?
Deaths are the most important metric. What part of that don’t you understand? Someone dying is the ultimate failure.
Not surprised you don’t get that given your lack of empathy for anything.
faldO wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm
Interesting analysis of test & trace data suggesting that supermarkets are the most likely place to pick up the virus:
I clean all the stuff I bring home - a bit OCD I know - but perhaps necessary. I'm sure there's just as much transmission through accidental touching of contaminated surfaces and then to nose/mouth as there is through the air.
Unless somebody breathes, coughs or sneezes directly over you, I'm not sure there is much airborne transmission.
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:33 pm
But we're only the worst by that one metric, which as pointed out several times is not a particularly useful one when comparing countries.
Irrelevant metric?
Deaths are the most important metric. What part of that don’t you understand? Someone dying is the ultimate failure.
Not surprised you don’t get that given your lack of empathy for anything.
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:33 pm
But we're only the worst by that one metric, which as pointed out several times is not a particularly useful one when comparing countries.
Irrelevant metric?
Deaths are the most important metric. What part of that don’t you understand? Someone dying is the ultimate failure.
Not surprised you don’t get that given your lack of empathy for anything.
Another one who doesn't understand basic math.
Says someone who can’t even spell it!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:45 pm
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:41 pm
Nobody is saying it's ok. But ask people how many are dying daily and they'll tell you the announced figure, the truth is it's about half that.
The truth?
What would you know about the ‘truth’?
The facts are different from your ‘truth’ where everything is fine and 50 000 deaths don’t matter because most of them are elderly who either were going to die soon anyway or are to blame for not hiding away.
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:41 pm
Nobody is saying it's ok. But ask people how many are dying daily and they'll tell you the announced figure, the truth is it's about half that.
The truth?
What would you know about the ‘truth’?
The facts are different from your ‘truth’ where everything is fine and 50 000 deaths don’t matter because most of them are elderly who either were going to die soon anyway or are to blame for not hiding away.
You are some piece of work.
Ive just imagined you like this Des
Sorry i know you were being serious as well
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:01 pm
by Long slender neck
You're all wound up over things I've never said.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:01 pm
by Thor
PW are you sitting there like the picture of Ross you have as your avatar?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:27 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm
The ONS report that all deaths in Oct 20 was only 8 more than the year prior and within that number is 3,357 covid deaths. Emmmm let me think about this for one moment.......
Reckon it might something to do with people not going out as much and therefore not only avoiding things like road traffic accident deaths but also not picking up other virus’ like the flu?
I haven’t had a cold since January. It makes sense why, I don’t think common colds are a hoax.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:43 pm
by Thor
I’m not saying it’s a hoax, it’s real very real, but not as dangerous as the mainstream media make it out to be.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:00 pm
by Thor
I’ve said on here previously that there is no evidence to support wearing masks. Here is a report which again proves that they provide no benefit to the wearer or anyone else for that matter.
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:00 pm
I’ve said on here previously that there is no evidence to support wearing masks. Here is a report which again proves that they provide no benefit to the wearer or anyone else for that matter.
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:00 pm
I’ve said on here previously that there is no evidence to support wearing masks. Here is a report which again proves that they provide no benefit to the wearer or anyone else for that matter.
They said for months on end that Mask were a waste of time.
No evidence to suggest they prevent the spread of the virus.
But we all go along with this nonsense.
Perhaps if successive governments hadn’t reduced the hospital beds from 300k in 1990 down to 145k now, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Uk population 1990 57 m.
2020 67 m.
10m more people and less than half the hospital beds.
