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The early takesProposition Joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:16 pm Weird that this thread has stayed dormant throughout all the Israeli incursions and civilian killings over the previous months yet as soon as Hamas start up, people suddenly want to comment.
Any proof of that?BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:16 pmI really can’t be arsed. I’m watching House of Games…Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:10 pmGot any links to this inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians? (this is not a denial that its happened btw)BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:33 pm
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
I’m one of those jews! Painting everyone with the same brush hides actual anti semitism that is real and dangerous.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:10 pmNo you didn't you were a dickhead.FrankOFile wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:58 pmI did try to be reasonable, but you have resorted to type.BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:33 pm
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
You can't go around accusing people of anti semitism for criticising the Israeli govt. It isn't. It's opposition to the racist zionism of Netanyahu and his fascist allies.
There are many Jews who do not support zionism and some who even go as far as opposing the founding of Israel. Are they too antisemites?
I think that's doing her a kindness. She's not unhinged, she knows exactly what she's doing, she's just pure fash.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:55 pm Also - the woman is truly unhinged eh?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ishi-sunak
Amy Gledhill won by one point.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:53 pmAny proof of that?BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:16 pmI really can’t be arsed. I’m watching House of Games…Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:10 pm
Got any links to this inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians? (this is not a denial that its happened btw)
It is in the context of the act. Like waving a Swastika, every situation will be judged on its merits.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:08 pm I don't think waving a Palestinian flag is a criminal offence.
Probably will be by the end of tomorrowProposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:08 pm I don't think waving a Palestinian flag is a criminal offence.
The eloquence of the loonie left. No arguments, yet default to venal name calling.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:10 pmNo you didn't you were a dickhead.FrankOFile wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:58 pmI did try to be reasonable, but you have resorted to type.BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:33 pm
Of course. If you’d read some of my other posts and looked at posts I’d liked you would know that.
The violent incursion by Hamas is deplorable and unforgivable.
However, you state that any Israeli misconduct towards Palestinians is in the past. I find it hard to understand how you can close your eyes to the ongoing inhumane treatment and murder of Palestinian civilians.
You can't go around accusing people of anti semitism for criticising the Israeli govt. It isn't. It's opposition to the racist zionism of Netanyahu and his fascist allies.
There are many Jews who do not support zionism and some who even go as far as opposing the founding of Israel. Are they too antisemites?
Any celebration of barbarism should be denounced. The glee in celebrating (key word) the murder of innocents is no different to waving the Isis flag about.Admin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:40 pmProbably will be by the end of tomorrowProposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:08 pm I don't think waving a Palestinian flag is a criminal offence.
It's possible that people waved those flags to say don't forget the hundreds of innocent palenstinans being killed as Israeli flags are waved. Both Israelies & Palestinians who are innocent are dying. It would be good if we all remembred that.FrankOFile wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:12 pmAny celebration of barbarism should be denounced. The glee in celebrating (key word) the murder of innocents is no different to waving the Isis flag about.Admin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:40 pmProbably will be by the end of tomorrowProposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:08 pm I don't think waving a Palestinian flag is a criminal offence.
Then again, calling those who feel Hamas are terrorists means getting called a c***.
Oh, the eloquence.
..."to harass or intimidate members of the Jewish community."Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:08 pm I don't think waving a Palestinian flag is a criminal offence.
Sounds fair, although I suspect this is all just politics and not policy anyway.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:35 am I assume the same rules will apply to those waving Israel flags?
The more which emerges from this, the worse it gets with no end in sight. The troops massing outside Gaza will be seeking vengeance. The massacres and outrages have just begun I fear.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am Just read about Kfar Aza. f*cking Hell. I don't consider this rowing back on anything, or that anything I've said earlier has been wrong - I honestly believe the Palestinian state (not Hamas) can't be blamed for reacting to years, decades of subjugation and I believe Israel is propagating a form of apartheid - but along with the concert massacre (genuinely chilled by some of the limited footage I've seen) the acts carried out by Hamas are absolutely inexcusable. I fear gorier details are yet to come. And, that being said, cutting off the whole of Gaza from electricity, water and food
and bombing civilian areas in response is also inexcusable. I don't see that as whataboutery, it's just possible to think more than one thing is bad simultaneously.
And I think, given some of the horror that has taken place recently, for our Govt to be using the opportunity to start another proxy culture war over a flag is disgusting.
Best take down the Union jacks of murdering is part of the criteriaLong slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:03 am It is offensive to fly that flag having just murdered hundreds of civilians. I dont know how lefties can read the news from the past few days and do that, utterly shameful.
Yeah proper grim and depressing on all sides. No one’s going to come out of this well and unfortunately I can’t see a quick end to more atrocitiesProposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am Just read about Kfar Aza. f*cking Hell. I don't consider this rowing back on anything, or that anything I've said earlier has been wrong - I honestly believe the Palestinian state (not Hamas) can't be blamed for reacting to years, decades of subjugation and I believe Israel is propagating a form of apartheid - but along with the concert massacre (genuinely chilled by some of the limited footage I've seen) the acts carried out by Hamas are absolutely inexcusable. I fear gorier details are yet to come. And, that being said, cutting off the whole of Gaza from electricity, water and food
and bombing civilian areas in response is also inexcusable. I don't see that as whataboutery, it's just possible to think more than one thing is bad simultaneously.
And I think, given some of the horror that has taken place recently, for our Govt to be using the opportunity to start another proxy culture war over a flag is disgusting.
You've not got the hang of this have you? The proper reaction here is to pick a side and stick with it. Double down on your position even in the face of irrefutable evidence of wrongdoing.Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am Just read about Kfar Aza. f*cking Hell. I don't consider this rowing back on anything, or that anything I've said earlier has been wrong - I honestly believe the Palestinian state (not Hamas) can't be blamed for reacting to years, decades of subjugation and I believe Israel is propagating a form of apartheid - but along with the concert massacre (genuinely chilled by some of the limited footage I've seen) the acts carried out by Hamas are absolutely inexcusable. I fear gorier details are yet to come. And, that being said, cutting off the whole of Gaza from electricity, water and food
and bombing civilian areas in response is also inexcusable. I don't see that as whataboutery, it's just possible to think more than one thing is bad simultaneously.
And I think, given some of the horror that has taken place recently, for our Govt to be using the opportunity to start another proxy culture war over a flag is disgusting.