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Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:51 pm

Lovejoy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:27 pm
What should the government do then?

They should call another GE and allow Labour to be elected. The pandemic will be under control within a matter of weeks under a Labour government.












That's the impression I get on here anyway.

If Only Labour could take over in France, Spain, Germany, Italy etc this whole Global pandemic would be over in weeks. Simple solution.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:53 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:25 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:53 pm Of course its about finances.

Imagine you have some money. Are you willing to be financially destroyed so that some oaps can live a bit longer?

80% furlough
Who is being financially destroyed ?

Its not just O.A.P's though is it .

You forgot all that debt mate. People will lose their jobs and not be on furlough.

It is mostly OAPs, yes.

Ah ok you've changed your story from

Saving some O.A.P's to MOSTLY O.A.P's .



As for the debt , it will be being repaid centuries after you
have toddled off this message board to the one in the sky

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:05 pm Do gooder!

There has to be some acceptance that some people will die.

Scenario for you Huxley-

Lockdown #3 will save 3000 octogenarians, but impoverish thousands, kill 250 cancer patients and 50 people will commit suicide and will give us 10 years of austerity. Worth it?

In 2018 6,507 committed suicide
I dont remember ever seeing you so vocal about them .

As for the 250 cancer patients dying , Just tell the young urchins to self isolate stay home &
To use your words earlier in this thread " #save Grandad " & stop filling
Hospitals with covid aO.A.P patients so that cancer patients can get trated !

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:31 pm

Story of O wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:29 pm Why do you people bite?

Sheer boredom on my part.

Its good for your Mental Health Bonio
Stops you thinking dark thoughts &
The mind wandering to Suicide !

It wont help those poor unfortunates with really sh*tty lives
But it might help the 30 somethings who worry about finances.

The old should isolate so as not to mix with the young yes.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:55 pm The old should isolate so as not to mix with the young yes.

So just let them die isolated and ostracised.

Charming.

How old is old anyway in your dystopian world?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:55 pm The old should isolate so as not to mix with the young yes.

What about there Mental Health & Suicide
They have the Ability to avoid Financial debt
Surely they need to be keptnaround so the young & in
debt can be eased throught there traumatised lives ?

Poor poppets

If they are that close to death they may as well mix.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:31 pm If they are that close to death they may as well mix.

Nah some poor little 30 year old might catch get sick & spend a
month or 2 in hospital & make more Cancer Patients vulnerable .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:30 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:55 pm The old should isolate so as not to mix with the young yes.

What about there Mental Health & Suicide
They have the Ability to avoid Financial debt
Surely they need to be keptnaround so the young & in
debt can be eased throught there traumatised lives ?

Poor poppets

Good point, quite a few crazy old farts on here, one told me he has the same IQ as Einstein!

Don't see the old helping financially, they don't pay much tax, probably a net loss to the country.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:34 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:31 pm If they are that close to death they may as well mix.

Nah some poor little 30 year old might catch get sick & spend a
month or 2 in hospital & make more Cancer Patients vulnerable .

That doesn't make any sense.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:47 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:34 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:31 pm If they are that close to death they may as well mix.

Nah some poor little 30 year old might catch get sick & spend a
month or 2 in hospital & make more Cancer Patients vulnerable .

That doesn't make any sense.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanr ... 6/fulltext



The changing demographics of COVID-19

Priya Venkatesan

 

Published:October 06, 2020DOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/S2213-2600(20)30461-6

PlumX Metrics

As societies around the world begin to reopen after many months of lockdown, a worrying shift is emerging in the demographic of COVID-19 cases towards individuals aged younger than 40 years. According to an analysis of 6 million cases between February and July, 2020, the number of infected people aged 15–24 years increased from 4·5% to 15%, possibly resulting from a combination of increased socialising in younger age groups and reversion to previous routines, including attending workplaces, schools, and universities, plus better surveillance. The age shift has become even more pronounced recently, as a report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showed that cases of COVID-19 in individuals aged 18–22 years in the USA increased by 55% between Aug 2 and Sept 5, 2020. Another report from the CDC showed that the number of cases of COVID-19 in the USA between June and August, 2020, was highest in the age group 20–29 years, accounting for more than 20% of the total. This is in stark contrast with the early days of the pandemic in March 2020, when the incidence of COVID-19 was highest in elderly people aged at least 60 years. Similarly, in England most new infections identified between Aug 17 and 30, 2020, were in individuals aged 20–29 years.

John Edmunds (London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, London, UK) is not surprised by these data, commenting “A range of different serological surveys [done] over recent months all suggest that young adults were more likely to be infected than older individuals. Hence, it might be that the pattern that we are witnessing now is not actually very different from the first part of the epidemic.”



Yes a Copy & Paste . Your Favourite thing.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:30 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:55 pm

Good point, quite a few crazy old farts on here, one told me he has the same IQ as Einstein!

Thats a Blatant Lie , I said i had an IQ test with a certain Score .
Einstein never took an I Q test ,
Some reckoned a Genius only had to score a 140
We all know that isn't high enough .
Well the clever ones amongst us do anyway

Well done on copy and pasting a load of irrelevant information once again

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:15 pm Well done on copy and pasting a load of irrelevant information once again

Why is that irrelevant?
It's very relevant
Explain why you think it's irrelevant?

Hardly irrelevent that the biggest increase in
Women 18-40 who get hospitalised &
severely sick patients who although are unlikely
to die will suffer needlesly in Hospital beds
that cancer patients could be using.

Still, you keep banging on about Finances .

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:17 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:15 pm Well done on copy and pasting a load of irrelevant information once again

Why is that irrelevant?
It's very relevant
Explain why you think it's irrelevant?

Because it doesn't even mention hospitalisations, which is what we're talking about. (Tuffers said in his previous post a youngster will take the bed of a cancer patient)

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:30 pm

Good point, quite a few crazy old farts on here, one told me he has the same IQ as Einstein!

Thats a Blatant Lie , I said i had an IQ test with a certain Score .
Einstein never took an I Q test ,
Some reckoned a Genius only had to score a 140
We all know that isn't high enough .
Well the clever ones amongst us do anyway

You claimed an IQ of over 160 "Still managed an IQ of over 160 though"
https://www.free-iqtest.net/iq-score-guide.asp
According to that site, this makes you an extraordinary genius and they rate Einstein as 161.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:41 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:53 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm

Good point, quite a few crazy old farts on here, one told me he has the same IQ as Einstein!

Thats a Blatant Lie , I said i had an IQ test with a certain Score .
Einstein never took an I Q test ,
Some reckoned a Genius only had to score a 140
We all know that isn't high enough .
Well the clever ones amongst us do anyway

You claimed an IQ of over 160 "Still managed an IQ of over 160 though"
https://www.free-iqtest.net/iq-score-guide.asp
According to that site, this makes you an extraordinary genius and they rate Einstein as 161.

I know a guy who saved Hawker Sidley nealry £2 million quid a year
When he was a teenage apprentice in walthamstow , he's a very clever Engineer .

Einstein isnt that highly regarded in the world of Science
Depending what you read .

Still at least i never said an IQ of 140 would make you a Genius !!


That would be Silly

Yes, how how humiliating for me to be five points away from the actual answer (genius is 145)

Damn you've left teeth marks, you bit so hard !

33000+ positive tests reported today. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54908680

"Experts have previously warned against describing the daily figure as a record because there was no widespread testing programme during the first wave of the epidemic"

Guess what the headline/ how article begins....

"A record 33,470 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK government's latest daily figure."

563 deaths announced today, third day in a row over 500 but it’s ok, most of those were in the past not today.

Deliberately missing the point again? You are just like someone spreading misinformation.

Today's announced deaths bring us up to 260 for 9 November(if you want the highest total for a recent day), this particular day may be added to for a few days yet.

Feels like this second lockdown really hit home today.

Anyone else totally fed up with it all?

Even Ronnie ain't been about today.