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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:48 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:27 pm Elite football remains ongoing - non league and grassroots to be decided but assumed cancelled from Thursday

So the rich boys get to carry on while the rest of us suffer. It's extremely Irritating .

Elite football is PL down to and including National League.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:50 pm Non league is below the National League thesedays, right?

I believe so.

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:56 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:50 pm Non league is below the National League thesedays, right?

I believe so.

Elite also includes National league North and South.

O's Lockdown Fixtures

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5407

Looking at the graphs the government has released the issue is all midlands and above related, the rest of the country looks fine right now. Can’t see why the whole country is being locked down when the facts show that the infections and r number is dropping in all the areas in tier 3. Seems like a crazy move to me when the controls put in place are working.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:14 am Looking at the graphs the government has released the issue is all midlands and above related, the rest of the country looks fine right now. Can’t see why the whole country is being locked down when the facts show that the infections and r number is dropping in all the areas in tier 3. Seems like a crazy move to me when the controls put in place are working.

And David Milliband earning a Million Pounds ,
Is it ok an Ex Jewish M.P earns it Thory ?

No plan or strategy to protect and help the old and vulnerable. We are doomed to have lockdown after lockdown with this inept government.

If they could just put measures in place to shield these people and properly support them, many infections and hospitalisations could be prevented and the economy would not be so damaged.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:01 am No plan or strategy to protect and help the old and vulnerable. We are doomed to have lockdown after lockdown with this inept government.

If they could just put measures in place to shield these people and properly support them, many infections and hospitalisations could be prevented and the economy would not be so damaged.

Relentless

Proffessor Calum Semple on women 20-40 in ICU in liverpool

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/coron ... Covid.html

Protect the vunerable

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:14 am Proffessor Calum Semple on women 20-40 in ICU in liverpool

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/coron ... Covid.html

Protect the vunerable

Sorry I don't read external links or material from you. Believe the old are driving hospitalisations though and as these are the most likely to die, they should be protected. Don't know why you are in denial about this.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:28 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:14 am Proffessor Calum Semple on women 20-40 in ICU in liverpool

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/coron ... Covid.html

Protect the vunerable

Sorry I don't read external links or material from you. Believe the old are driving hospitalisations though and as these are the most likely to die, they should be protected. Don't know why you are in denial about this.

You dont need to read it .

It needs to be watched by anyone who thinks you
are qualified in Covid-19 .

It might give THEM A different outlook to
something other than your view that young healthy people
Dont get seriously ill with a threat to life .

Yes but it's a low percentage.

Let's hope Professor Calum Semple is equally concerned about the estimated 1M women who have missed vital breast screening due to covid-19.

https://breastcancernow.org/about-us/me ... e-covid-19

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:20 pm Let's hope Professor Calum Semple is equally concerned about the estimated 1M women who have missed vital breast screening due to covid-19.

https://breastcancernow.org/about-us/me ... e-covid-19

It's not an either or situation. I'm sure he cares about both.

If the Tories had not screwed the NHS for the last TEN years, imposed the 1st lockdown way too late and Fuked up the test and trace system by giving it to private companies with no public health credentials EVERYONE would currently be getting better medical care.

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:20 pm Let's hope Professor Calum Semple is equally concerned about the estimated 1M women who have missed vital breast screening due to covid-19.

https://breastcancernow.org/about-us/me ... e-covid-19

In his full interview he explained exactly why it mattered that this message came across

Young people getting ill means numbers go way above old vulnerable
people Being in intensive care , it explained that it would then
affect even more treatment for sick people to
Be treated for there conditions for an even longer period .

In English please

Meaning old vulnerable people die quicker
Freeing up bed space .

Younger people can spend much longer recovering meaning fewer i c u beds.

Which means more wards get taken over for covid .

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:23 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:20 pm Let's hope Professor Calum Semple is equally concerned about the estimated 1M women who have missed vital breast screening due to covid-19.

https://breastcancernow.org/about-us/me ... e-covid-19

It's not an either or situation. I'm sure he cares about both.

If the Tories had not screwed the NHS for the last TEN years, imposed the 1st lockdown way too late and Fuked up the test and trace system by giving it to private companies with no public health credentials EVERYONE would currently be getting better medical care.

Correct. They didn't cover themselves in Glory with the Cummings affair either where exactly the wrong message was given to the public. Lately, their failure to implement the SAGE advice, on September 21st, to immediately implement a short circuit-breaker lockdown has now resulted in the huge surge in infections and the complete 4 week Lockdown we're now facing. Inept, corrupt, just doesn't cut it when describing Boris & chums.

So the 4000 deaths a day doomsday model, is based on deaths within 60 days of infection, instead of the usual 28.

Is that not because most people who die from Covid are likely to hang on for 28 days? And, if so, capping it at 28 days would likely give a false indicator?

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:33 am Is that not because most people who die from Covid are likely to hang on for 28 days? And, if so, capping it at 28 days would likely give a false indicator?

Probably. But then they should probably either calibrate this data to be comparable or reissue the historical data so that comparisons can more easily be made.

But didnt they change it to 28 from something else earlier in the year?

They changed it to
Tested positive with covid in 28 days .
To define specifically Covid .

Instead of including Covid related .

In other words complications such as sepsis , heart problems, strokes etc
All suffered while no longer being covid positive , but still in comas etc.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:04 am They changed it to
Tested positive with covid in 28 days .
To define specifically Covid .

Instead of including Covid related .

In other words complications such as sepsis , heart problems, strokes etc
All suffered while no longer being covid positive , but still in comas etc.

Confucius say: ‘Dead is dead. Cannot be called by any other name.’