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No dodgy ballots

If big don fails to have the rules set before kick off

He cant complain when he gets beat .

Biden

Will be the President with the,
BIGGEST VOTER numbers EVER .

Betting markets are only pointing to one winner.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us ... 020/winner

I think the US electoral votes system is even more corrupt than our first past the post.
in 2016 Clinton won over 3 million more votes than trump, but didnt get the presidency. How can that be democracy?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:35 pm Its very quiet in here ,

Imagine a world without the Orange one
In Charge .

I wouldn't bet on him not having an ace up his sleave.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:08 pm Trump has done better than i expected, considering hes made a real mess of the virus etc.
The speech he made earlier in The White House shows how utterly unhinged he is..What a dangerous man

Well I’m even more shocked at how well Biden is doing and I think he’ll now win . I admit I called this election totally wrong. I genuinely thought the backhanders from China and all the street violence committed by people like Antifa would have done in the Democrats for this election. When Biden is confirmed the winner Trump should just accept defeat gracefully and leave. Time will tell if the American public made the right choice but I have a sneaking feeling they will live to regret it

Is it not over yet?

I can’t see Joe Biden staying in the post of President for long because of his cognitive decline. Therefore I can see Kamala Harris taking over within months if not weeks. She recently released a short cartoon video of what she believes in . It was quite clear from the video that she has Communist beliefs. I’m not too sure how well the communist system of governance is going to work in a country like American

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:52 pm Is it not over yet?

No , I think it is now Biden has won in Wisconsin

What an unholy mess it is. If Biden does win it, Farage will not be happy. When things were going his way, he boasted of the £10,000 wager he had on Trump to win. Oh dear! Oh dear!

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:33 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:35 pm Its very quiet in here ,

Imagine a world without the Orange one
In Charge .

I wouldn't bet on him not having an ace up his sleave.

What
Nuclear codes given to Putin unless
Trumpy gets to stay prezident

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:03 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:33 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:35 pm Its very quiet in here ,

Imagine a world without the Orange one
In Charge .

I wouldn't bet on him not having an ace up his sleave.

What
Nuclear codes given to Putin unless
Trumpy gets to stay prezident

Wouldn’t surprise me if he already knew em Tuff, how *****d up this world is.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:55 pm I can’t see Joe Biden staying in the post of President for long because of his cognitive decline. Therefore I can see Kamala Harris taking over within months if not weeks. She recently released a short cartoon video of what she believes in . It was quite clear from the video that she has Communist beliefs. I’m not too sure how well the communist system of governance is going to work in a country like American

Lol that you equate equality with communism.

Bloody commies, coming in here, making us equal.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:55 pm I can’t see Joe Biden staying in the post of President for long because of his cognitive decline. Therefore I can see Kamala Harris taking over within months if not weeks. She recently released a short cartoon video of what she believes in . It was quite clear from the video that she has Communist beliefs. I’m not too sure how well the communist system of governance is going to work in a country like American

It's definitely not over yet, but looks likely so I think fair play to you for being graceful here. However, this is the video you are talking of. It is certainly not 'quite clear she has communist beliefs'. This isn't an endorsement of communism, it is a (possibly badly worded at worst) call for fairness. I don't mean this disrespectfully but this is a big problem for 'the left'*, always so well used by the right.

So many use socialism, Marxism and communism without really knowing what it means but knowing it will be seen as insulting and it really sticks. The Trump's keep calling Biden a socialist, for example. It's just false. It's like me calling you a socialist because you think the NHS is cool, it's misuse..

This is the video;

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:18 pm I think the US electoral votes system is even more corrupt than our first past the post.
in 2016 Clinton won over 3 million more votes than trump, but didnt get the presidency. How can that be democracy?

Bit like saying how come Man City didn’t win the Prem when they scored more goals and conceded fewer than the Champions for example.

Just the way it works.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:55 pm I can’t see Joe Biden staying in the post of President for long because of his cognitive decline. Therefore I can see Kamala Harris taking over within months if not weeks. She recently released a short cartoon video of what she believes in . It was quite clear from the video that she has Communist beliefs. I’m not too sure how well the communist system of governance is going to work in a country like American

What!!!!!!!!!!!!
Youve got 2 + 2 and made it 3,671. Communism is where the state takes over all private means of making money etc etc
You really think, that Biden /Harris will take over private business?......if you do youre nuts actually
Biden is no saint, but Trump is such a monster, anyone is better than him
You had better get used to losing....just like you told me, four years ago, when Remain lost the referendum....your turn now!

First time the goodies will have won in a while and they will have only just managed it against the most ridiculous leader in most people's lifetimes.

Biden 1/7 Trump 9/2 I can't see the bookies being wrong with those odds

CNN saying Biden has won Michigan

It's all about Nevada now

I think I know why I hate Trump so much.

It’s not just because he’s clearly an awful human being.

But he’s the Frankenstein of all the people in life that I have to deal with every day who are utterly inept in every way, but somehow manage to get away with it by bullshitting their way through. There’s so many people in work who, like trump, come up with a load of rhetoric to cover their tracks, or fit their agenda, and despite everyone knowing it’s bollocks, they can continue doing it with impunity until you are the one that starts sounding silly for calling them on it.

He’s untalented, lucky, ignorant and embodies everything that’s wrongly accepted in our society. Good riddance.

Think that's a good summary. He has a (really impressive actually) ability to gaslight people. If you lie and lie and lie, when you don't lie people are happy and when you do lie people aren't surprised so it has no shock and doesn't get remembered anymore.

Mail vote fraud for example, he has no evidence nor any precedent, but he confidently and assuredly skipped past those questions to basically just keep saying 'oh no, I'm right' and that is the sort of confidence people want and those that WANT to believe him, those that enjoy him, have reason to. He's right to them and always will be. See also; I built this great economy. 'What about Obama, sir? Look at the stats?'' 'No, it was me'. And they lap it up.

We're majorly f*cked. If you look at the world in 2020, pandemic aside, we are really not in a good place. It's hard to see a way through.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:39 pm First time the goodies will have won in a while and they will have only just managed it against the most ridiculous leader in most people's lifetimes.

Less baddies, not goodies.

With a bit of luck Biden takes Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Georgia leaving Trump with very little to argue against. With a 1 state difference I can see it going on for the next month, with 3 I think he'll have to accept it (after calling it all fake, fixed, corrupt, blah blah blah).

I really think you are being very kind to him.

He will play the 'I was winning then ALL OF A SUDDEN they FIND VOTES!' no matter how close or far it finishes, unless he wins. He won't answer questions about count times, nor the likelihood of Democrats voting more by distance or even the fact the GOP has caused the delay.

And his fans will support it completely and wholeheartedly.