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Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:59 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:37 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:05 pm
Some excellent analysis by Lewis Goodall.
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Trump won everywhere. He's going to win the popular vote. He did better across the demographics. He grew his coalition, better with black voters, Latinos, young voters. The US become less racially divided by party." Ouch.
If I was really squinting my eyes for a glimmer of hope, it'd that overall turnout was down on the last election. Trump of 2024 loses to 2020 vote number wise. The Democrat vote simply didn't vote.
However, 2028 is probably too late for the Democrats to get their arse into gear (if they are even capable of it). The Republicans will likely control every branch of government and use that power to bolt the door closed. Trump could get 2-3 supreme court picks in this term, meaning 2-3 more ultra conservative, young justices. He could put in a hard right massive majority on the court that will exist for longer than most boarders on here will live for.
They - and by extension - we are f*cked.
Silly question. But is the rule that someone can’t have two consecutive terms or two terms total?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:08 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Total
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:10 pm
by Hoover Attack
For now.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:16 pm
by BoniO
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:41 am
Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:02 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:28 am
That's because we have the wrong party in power .
Well, luckily we have a strong Labour government who will stand up to Trump and his friends and not bend over backwards for them…
We are completely isolated. I don't know what else Labour can do in this situation. We have put up massive barriers with our main trading partner and now our second main trading partner is in the hands of an isolationist who is proposing 10-20% on all imports. The nonsense we were sold about Global Britain is looking like a cruel cosmic joke - we couldn't have timed it worse.
Agree, and it was obvious this would be the most likely outcome even before we voted Brexit. We’ve been part of a Global Economy for decades. The only protection was to be part of a collective. To go it alone was way beyond stupid.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:54 pm
by Long slender neck
Have the violent protests started yet?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:11 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
I think James O Brien might have done a phone in, if that counts
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:18 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
She hasn’t conceded yet, very concerning as a smooth transfer of power is vital to democracy!
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:28 pm
by Give it to Jabo
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:18 pm
She hasn’t conceded yet, very concerning as a smooth transfer of power is vital to democracy!
I reckon she will, though.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:29 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
“Literally nothing”
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:55 pm
by Beradogs
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:18 am
Fair play to Nick Lowles here.
"We have lost politically, economically and culturally." The first step to solving a problem is to recognising what went wrong.
Hope Not Hate asking why people are voting for right wing parties. LMAO.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:11 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
For the older boarders and politics/history aficionados on the board.
Better comeback than Nixon?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm
by 65AndCounting
Time for Kamala to ask how Trump knew he was going to win big at his last rally. The polls were still showing neck and neck. A conspiracy theory in the making and if Kamala states doubts often enough people might believe it. That's how the master operates.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:57 pm
by Dunners
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:09 pm
by Dunners
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:11 pm
For the older boarders and politics/history aficionados on the board.
Better comeback than Nixon?
Yes. It's incredible.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:15 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
65AndCounting wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm
Time for Kamala to ask how Trump knew he was going to win big at his last rally. The polls were still showing neck and neck. A conspiracy theory in the making and if Kamala states doubts often enough people might believe it. That's how the master operates.
It did cross my mind…
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:27 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Time for her to fight, let’s make Kamala 2028 a thing
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:02 pm
by faldO
Why is Otto English so angry?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:57 pm
by Wally Banter
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:11 am
Sorry, I started typing in an attempt to try and cheer you up but it would appear that we're dooooomed!
Jesus H! You could've told me all this
before I decided to have kids
.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:01 pm
by Long slender neck
Why don't the goodies have some policies that would actually excite and inspire people?
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm
by Stowaway
Neither of them seemed to have any policies at all. Harris didn’t speak of any, and all Trump did was to say “I’ll fix this” and that was it. No plans, no costing, nothing.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:34 pm
by SouthStandPete
Stowaway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm
Neither of them seemed to have any policies at all. Harris didn’t speak of any, and all Trump did was to say “I’ll fix this” and that was it. No plans, no costing, nothing.
Should have said “Fully Costed, Fully Funded”. That strategy seems to be worth a few votes ! Trump has plenty of policies (border wall, legal immigration only, illegals deportation, trade tariffs particularly on China, manufacturing jobs in USA, energy production, reduce gas prices, NATO countries paying their way, No men in womens sport, Peace through strength, extending tax cuts, etc). These policies seem to have won Trump plenty of votes !
As for Harris, well it was just carry on as before. Not what the voters wanted to hear !
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:37 pm
by Adz
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:19 am
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:10 am
Looking at the results it appears Trump has won convincingly thanks in part to improving his numbers massively with typical white supremacist demographics such as non white voters and young voters
I heard on the radio that they reckon 1 on 4 black men voted Republican plus the highest ever number of Hispanics and Asian Americans voted Republican . Not bad for a Nazi , wouldn't you say .
Of course all those Democrat smears was just a load of old bollocks .
This shouldn't be surprising economic migrants love the concept of shutting the door behind them, so those they left behind don't get the same benefit as them.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:01 am
by SouthStandPete
Adz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:37 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:19 am
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:10 am
Looking at the results it appears Trump has won convincingly thanks in part to improving his numbers massively with typical white supremacist demographics such as non white voters and young voters
I heard on the radio that they reckon 1 on 4 black men voted Republican plus the highest ever number of Hispanics and Asian Americans voted Republican . Not bad for a Nazi , wouldn't you say .
Of course all those Democrat smears was just a load of old bollocks .
This shouldn't be surprising economic migrants love the concept of shutting the door behind them, so those they left behind don't get the same benefit as them.
I believe the USA accepts over 1m legal migrants every year. I guess that included Nigel Travis at some point. So the message for all those that want to follow in Nigel’s footsteps is fill in the paperwork and wait your turn. Seems fair.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:14 am
by Proposition Joe
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:57 pm
Hahahaha I went to Uni with him. One of those pol-geeks who went straight from graduation to standing as a Cllr until he finally got a seat. Incredible that he's Leader of the Council.
Re: Harris v. Trump
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:15 am
by Proposition Joe
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:01 pm
Why don't the goodies have some policies that would actually excite and inspire people?
There's just no other way.