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Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:37 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:05 pm Some excellent analysis by Lewis Goodall.

" Trump won everywhere. He's going to win the popular vote. He did better across the demographics. He grew his coalition, better with black voters, Latinos, young voters. The US become less racially divided by party." Ouch.

If I was really squinting my eyes for a glimmer of hope, it'd that overall turnout was down on the last election. Trump of 2024 loses to 2020 vote number wise. The Democrat vote simply didn't vote.

However, 2028 is probably too late for the Democrats to get their arse into gear (if they are even capable of it). The Republicans will likely control every branch of government and use that power to bolt the door closed. Trump could get 2-3 supreme court picks in this term, meaning 2-3 more ultra conservative, young justices. He could put in a hard right massive majority on the court that will exist for longer than most boarders on here will live for.

They - and by extension - we are f*cked.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:41 am

Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:02 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:28 am

That's because we have the wrong party in power .

Well, luckily we have a strong Labour government who will stand up to Trump and his friends and not bend over backwards for them…

We are completely isolated. I don't know what else Labour can do in this situation. We have put up massive barriers with our main trading partner and now our second main trading partner is in the hands of an isolationist who is proposing 10-20% on all imports. The nonsense we were sold about Global Britain is looking like a cruel cosmic joke - we couldn't have timed it worse.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:18 pm She hasn’t conceded yet, very concerning as a smooth transfer of power is vital to democracy!

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:18 am Fair play to Nick Lowles here.

"We have lost politically, economically and culturally." The first step to solving a problem is to recognising what went wrong.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:11 pm For the older boarders and politics/history aficionados on the board.

Better comeback than Nixon?

65AndCounting wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:19 pm Time for Kamala to ask how Trump knew he was going to win big at his last rally. The polls were still showing neck and neck. A conspiracy theory in the making and if Kamala states doubts often enough people might believe it. That's how the master operates.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:11 am Sorry, I started typing in an attempt to try and cheer you up but it would appear that we're dooooomed!

Stowaway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm Neither of them seemed to have any policies at all. Harris didn’t speak of any, and all Trump did was to say “I’ll fix this” and that was it. No plans, no costing, nothing.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:19 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:10 am Looking at the results it appears Trump has won convincingly thanks in part to improving his numbers massively with typical white supremacist demographics such as non white voters and young voters

I heard on the radio that they reckon 1 on 4 black men voted Republican plus the highest ever number of Hispanics and Asian Americans voted Republican . Not bad for a Nazi , wouldn't you say . Of course all those Democrat smears was just a load of old bollocks .

Adz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:37 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:19 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:10 am Looking at the results it appears Trump has won convincingly thanks in part to improving his numbers massively with typical white supremacist demographics such as non white voters and young voters

I heard on the radio that they reckon 1 on 4 black men voted Republican plus the highest ever number of Hispanics and Asian Americans voted Republican . Not bad for a Nazi , wouldn't you say . Of course all those Democrat smears was just a load of old bollocks .

This shouldn't be surprising economic migrants love the concept of shutting the door behind them, so those they left behind don't get the same benefit as them.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:57 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:01 pm Why don't the goodies have some policies that would actually excite and inspire people?