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Zero crosses coming in from the left wing via Trippier and Foden who is a good forward but wasted playing him wide as a left winger.....which he aint !Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:35 am Slovakia lined up with a 4-4-2 and pressed our back 4 and Rice and Mainoo. There was a massive gap between their midfield and defence in which to find Bellingham but time and again the midfield failed to do so. (Bellinghams frustration at those behind him was visible).
Yesterday's performance certainly wasn't about tactical nous or quality football. Ultimately it came down to "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys and hope it falls kindly"Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:41 am People using luck to explain us constantly getting through the to late late knock out stages. Weird people can’t enjoy the journey.
As Richie says, you make your own luck in football. Slovakia hardly had a touch second half. We worked hard and didn’t give up and the more you throw balls in the box the more chance that one goes in.gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:45 amYesterday's performance certainly wasn't about tactical nous or quality football. Ultimately it came down to "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys and hope it falls kindly"Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:41 am People using luck to explain us constantly getting through the to late late knock out stages. Weird people can’t enjoy the journey.
There's enough quality in this squad to be playing far better than they are. Southgate has used up his get out of jail free card, he won't get another against Switzerland if they continue to play that badly.
Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI
gshaw wrote.....''Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI''gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:45 amYesterday's performance certainly wasn't about tactical nous or quality football. Ultimately it came down to "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys and hope it falls kindly"Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:41 am People using luck to explain us constantly getting through the to late late knock out stages. Weird people can’t enjoy the journey.
There's enough quality in this squad to be playing far better than they are. Southgate has used up his get out of jail free card, he won't get another against Switzerland if they continue to play that badly.
Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI
Wrong on basically every point.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:57 amgshaw wrote.....''Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI''gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:45 amYesterday's performance certainly wasn't about tactical nous or quality football. Ultimately it came down to "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys and hope it falls kindly"Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:41 am People using luck to explain us constantly getting through the to late late knock out stages. Weird people can’t enjoy the journey.
There's enough quality in this squad to be playing far better than they are. Southgate has used up his get out of jail free card, he won't get another against Switzerland if they continue to play that badly.
Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI
Yes agree and also Saka as left footed as you can get and played on the right wing, net result means he finds it hard to take on his full back and sling over a cross into the box. As you correctly state, apart from corners and free kicks, zero crosses into the box until the old fashioned "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys'' the sort of tactics often used by Tony Pulis the ex Stoke City manager and his big and often used weapon was the long throw into the penalty box by Rory Delap !!
Yes Saka does play on the right for Arsenal but he plays as an inverted winger, so his main game is to cut inside and use his left foot for passes inside and cutting in to dribble and take shots with his left foot. Not playing as an orthodox right winger, he also started at Arsenal as an attacking left wingback.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:51 pmWrong on basically every point.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:57 amgshaw wrote.....''Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI''gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:45 am
Yesterday's performance certainly wasn't about tactical nous or quality football. Ultimately it came down to "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys and hope it falls kindly"
There's enough quality in this squad to be playing far better than they are. Southgate has used up his get out of jail free card, he won't get another against Switzerland if they continue to play that badly.
Foden needs to be benched for starters, he's no good out wide and Southgate won't play him in the middle so take him out the XI
Yes agree and also Saka as left footed as you can get and played on the right wing, net result means he finds it hard to take on his full back and sling over a cross into the box. As you correctly state, apart from corners and free kicks, zero crosses into the box until the old fashioned "chuck a long throw in the box at the big guys'' the sort of tactics often used by Tony Pulis the ex Stoke City manager and his big and often used weapon was the long throw into the penalty box by Rory Delap !!
Saka plays for arsenal on the right and had a mad amount of goal contributions. He links up with odegaard and white at arsenal, which helps him.
We also put loads of crosses into the box yday. Too many probably.
The Slovakian defence was eating up the crosses, though many of them were really poor and in theme with the rest of the performance were slow to be delivered. Often it was a check back inside, looking, looking then trying to clip to the far post (usually over hit).Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:51 pm We also put loads of crosses into the box yday. Too many probably.
Hold up!Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:43 pm He's carrying a knock picked up towards end of season, I really don't think he's fit. Germany provided 2 out of 4 finalists for the major European finals this season, it's a very good league. But he clearly isn't at it and not being helped by how much of a mess out approach play is. We've looked best when Rashford or Sterling, and to a lesser extent Shaw, has capitalized on the space Kane's dropping deep created. Noone is playing that role now.
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:57 pm All too easy to predict . From the beginning of this competition England has been awful . I think this will be Southgate’s last game in charge
It's a broader phenomenon. Even by the already low standards of most England fans, I don't think I've ever seen so much negative emotion surrounding our progress to the QFs. As Southgate has improved the team, the fans have got antsier.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:43 pm Genuinely think a lot of boarders would be happier if we lost yday
Properly pathetic and childishOyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:03 pmIt's a broader phenomenon. Even by the already low standards of most England fans, I don't think I've ever seen so much negative emotion surrounding our progress to the QFs. As Southgate has improved the team, the fans have got antsier.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:43 pm Genuinely think a lot of boarders would be happier if we lost yday
The routine booings post match - even mid match in lots of cases - are something else.OyinbO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:03 pmIt's a broader phenomenon. Even by the already low standards of most England fans, I don't think I've ever seen so much negative emotion surrounding our progress to the QFs. As Southgate has improved the team, the fans have got antsier.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 4:43 pm Genuinely think a lot of boarders would be happier if we lost yday