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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59256153


This has not been a good week for Boris Johnson.

The Conservative Party has been battered by allegations that some of its MPs are on the take.

The way the prime minister has reacted to the situation has been publicly criticised, and privately slammed by many on his own side.

Even some of Boris Johnson's most stalwart backers in parts of the Conservative press have called foul.

But if you think this has been bumpy, it's not impossible that the government might find itself in a much more dramatic and risky situation with much further-reaching consequences for us all.


Read more on the link

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:12 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59256153


This has not been a good week for Boris Johnson.

The Conservative Party has been battered by allegations that some of its MPs are on the take.

The way the prime minister has reacted to the situation has been publicly criticised, and privately slammed by many on his own side.

Even some of Boris Johnson's most stalwart backers in parts of the Conservative press have called foul.

But if you think this has been bumpy, it's not impossible that the government might find itself in a much more dramatic and risky situation with much further-reaching consequences for us all.


Read more on the link

The sleaze stuff has been bad for Boris and the way he is handling it is shocking. Disgraceful. But that people in his own party are taking issue is quite positive. Seems over some issues, the genuine opposition to some of his bumblings come from his own party.

If only we had some strong forceful opposition from another political party.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:51 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:12 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59256153


This has not been a good week for Boris Johnson.

The Conservative Party has been battered by allegations that some of its MPs are on the take.

The way the prime minister has reacted to the situation has been publicly criticised, and privately slammed by many on his own side.

Even some of Boris Johnson's most stalwart backers in parts of the Conservative press have called foul.

But if you think this has been bumpy, it's not impossible that the government might find itself in a much more dramatic and risky situation with much further-reaching consequences for us all.


Read more on the link

The sleaze stuff has been bad for Boris and the way he is handling it is shocking. Disgraceful. But that people in his own party are taking issue is quite positive. Seems over some issues, the genuine opposition to some of his bumblings come from his own party.

If only we had some strong forceful opposition from another political party.

Sorry doH ,
Is this you
"MIXING IT." ?

HS 2 East scrapped .
https://westbridgfordwire.com/hs2-easte ... -scrapped/

Tut Tut another promise gone

All those people who were forced to sell there houses .

Disgusting buying houses under market value &
now will no doubt sell them & make profit from others misery .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:20 pm All those people who were forced to sell there houses .

Disgusting buying houses under market value &
now will no doubt sell them & make profit from others misery .

Source ?

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:19 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:20 pm All those people who were forced to sell there houses .

Disgusting buying houses under market value &
now will no doubt sell them & make profit from others misery .

Source ?

Radio 5 this evening
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011lhn

from 2 hours 10 minutes & 20 seconds pretty much .
A decent bit in they talk to a woman who was forced to sell her house .


Hope it satisfies you Thorgie Porgie pudden n pie .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:19 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:51 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:12 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59256153


This has not been a good week for Boris Johnson.

The Conservative Party has been battered by allegations that some of its MPs are on the take.

The way the prime minister has reacted to the situation has been publicly criticised, and privately slammed by many on his own side.

Even some of Boris Johnson's most stalwart backers in parts of the Conservative press have called foul.

But if you think this has been bumpy, it's not impossible that the government might find itself in a much more dramatic and risky situation with much further-reaching consequences for us all.


Read more on the link

The sleaze stuff has been bad for Boris and the way he is handling it is shocking. Disgraceful. But that people in his own party are taking issue is quite positive. Seems over some issues, the genuine opposition to some of his bumblings come from his own party.

If only we had some strong forceful opposition from another political party.

Sorry doH ,
Is this you
"MIXING IT." ?

No. This is me stating the bleedin obvious. Corbyn really screwed things up. We will feel the impact for years. Boris on a freedom ride.

You’ll know when I get stuck in, the mods will change my user name to something nasty or ban me. As is their way, I’m quite happy to get stuck in but the snowflake mods get irritated. Only a matter of time. Watch this space.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:18 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:19 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:51 pm

The sleaze stuff has been bad for Boris and the way he is handling it is shocking. Disgraceful. But that people in his own party are taking issue is quite positive. Seems over some issues, the genuine opposition to some of his bumblings come from his own party.

If only we had some strong forceful opposition from another political party.

Sorry doH ,
Is this you
"MIXING IT." ?

No. This is me stating the bleedin obvious. Corbyn really screwed things up. We will feel the impact for years. Boris on a freedom ride.

You’ll know when I get stuck in, the mods will change my user name to something nasty or ban me. As is their way, I’m quite happy to get stuck in but the snowflake mods get irritated. Only a matter of time. Watch this space.

I think you will find the press really screwed things up dOH .




Bodge isnt really getting a Free ride though is he .


Why do you think the mods are Snowflakes ?
I remember you throwing a HUFF because they wouldnt
change your name as a bit of a , stop taking yerself so seriously medicine
kind of thing .
Still I look forward to seeing your mixing it

Remember its 240 volts in Britain & not 100 volts as im sure
many of the vpn countries use .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:19 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:20 pm All those people who were forced to sell there houses .

Disgusting buying houses under market value &
now will no doubt sell them & make profit from others misery .

Source ?

Radio 5 this evening
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011lhn

from 2 hours 10 minutes & 20 seconds pretty much .
A decent bit in they talk to a woman who was forced to sell her house .


Hope it satisfies you Thorgie Porgie pudden n pie .

Yep. Listened to it. All hearsay and speculation at the moment. Compulsory purchase schemes are used by all governments in power for various reasons. Nothing scandalous there. Hopefully she will be able to buy it back .

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:50 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:19 pm

Source ?

Radio 5 this evening
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011lhn

from 2 hours 10 minutes & 20 seconds pretty much .
A decent bit in they talk to a woman who was forced to sell her house .


Hope it satisfies you Thorgie Porgie pudden n pie .

Yep. Listened to it. All hearsay and speculation at the moment. Compulsory purchase schemes are used by all governments in power for various reasons. Nothing scandalous there. Hopefully she will be able to buy it back .

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

Then there is this too/to/2
( just for you Max )

https://www.ft.com/content/1b32c2db-12d ... 454fec378a

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:50 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 pm

Radio 5 this evening
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011lhn

from 2 hours 10 minutes & 20 seconds pretty much .
A decent bit in they talk to a woman who was forced to sell her house .


Hope it satisfies you Thorgie Porgie pudden n pie .

Yep. Listened to it. All hearsay and speculation at the moment. Compulsory purchase schemes are used by all governments in power for various reasons. Nothing scandalous there. Hopefully she will be able to buy it back .

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

Do you have any evidence to show that when compulsory purchase was enforced by a Labour government they paid above market value

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:50 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:07 pm

Radio 5 this evening
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011lhn

from 2 hours 10 minutes & 20 seconds pretty much .
A decent bit in they talk to a woman who was forced to sell her house .


Hope it satisfies you Thorgie Porgie pudden n pie .

Yep. Listened to it. All hearsay and speculation at the moment. Compulsory purchase schemes are used by all governments in power for various reasons. Nothing scandalous there. Hopefully she will be able to buy it back .

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

It’s all hearsay until it’s announced on Thursday. And Grant Shapps is probably correct. No point wasting money on a project that won’t deliver value. And as for breaking up long term communities , blame the communities. They wanted it

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:08 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:50 pm

Yep. Listened to it. All hearsay and speculation at the moment. Compulsory purchase schemes are used by all governments in power for various reasons. Nothing scandalous there. Hopefully she will be able to buy it back .

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

Do you have any evidence to show that when compulsory purchase was enforced by a Labour government they paid above market value

What evidence would you like & for what case ?

Nice try at avoidanve on your part .

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:15 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:50 pm

Yep. Listened to it. All hearsay and speculation at the moment. Compulsory purchase schemes are used by all governments in power for various reasons. Nothing scandalous there. Hopefully she will be able to buy it back .

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

It’s all hearsay until it’s announced on Thursday. And Grant Shapps is probably correct. No point wasting money on a project that won’t deliver value. And as for breaking up long term communities , blame the communities. They wanted it

Schapps is only following Corbyns view that HS2 was a waste of money .
It was part of the Leveling up of the North a key strategy in conning
the North wall to vote Tory blue .

Jezza wanted to use that money to invest in all round better current train lines .
again something Schapps & Bodge seem to now agree with .

who'd a thunk it eh ?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:42 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:15 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

It’s all hearsay until it’s announced on Thursday. And Grant Shapps is probably correct. No point wasting money on a project that won’t deliver value. And as for breaking up long term communities , blame the communities. They wanted it

Schapps is only following Corbyns view that HS2 was a waste of money .
It was part of the Leveling up of the North a key strategy in conning
the North wall to vote Tory blue .

Jezza wanted to use that money to invest in all round better current train lines .
again something Schapps & Bodge seem to now agree with .

who'd a thunk it eh ?

were on our way to 200 pages on the Tory watch thread
yeaaaaayyyyyyeeeeaaaaaah

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:38 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:08 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

Do you have any evidence to show that when compulsory purchase was enforced by a Labour government they paid above market value

What evidence would you like & for what case ?

Nice try at avoidanve on your part .

What I said. Do you have any evidence that when Labour were in power they paid above market value for compulsory purchased properties. I am assuming that they actually did something that warranted compulsory purchase

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:42 pm

George wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:15 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:01 pm

Breaking up Long Term communities for a project &
then paying the residents under market value for said properties .
Not Scandalous .

Thorgie you are a One .

as for heresay , its a not always the way laddie .

Transport secretary Grant Shapps added to the rumours, telling the Financial Times yesterday that ministers should not “blindly follow some plan invented 15 to 20 years ago which no longer benefits people”.

https://www.building.co.uk/news/governm ... 06.article

So Hardly Heresay now is it .

It’s all hearsay until it’s announced on Thursday. And Grant Shapps is probably correct. No point wasting money on a project that won’t deliver value. And as for breaking up long term communities , blame the communities. They wanted it

Schapps is only following Corbyns view that HS2 was a waste of money .
It was part of the Leveling up of the North a key strategy in conning
the North wall to vote Tory blue .

Jezza wanted to use that money to invest in all round better current train lines .
again something Schapps & Bodge seem to now agree with .

who'd a thunk it eh ?

That’s how politics should be. Doesn’t matter what party a good policy comes from. A good policy is a good policy. Both Labour and Conservative often have some

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/tory-council ... eet-300280

Meanwhile the Sainted JC still lives rent-free in many a Tories head.

Admin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:10 am https://www.joe.co.uk/news/tory-council ... eet-300280

Meanwhile the Sainted JC still lives rent-free in many a Tories head.

I know I shouldn't. But I did snigger.

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:08 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:10 am https://www.joe.co.uk/news/tory-council ... eet-300280

Meanwhile the Sainted JC still lives rent-free in many a Tories head.

I know I shouldn't. But I did snigger.

Old Hotdogs'll be after you.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:36 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:18 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:19 pm

Sorry doH ,
Is this you
"MIXING IT." ?

No. This is me stating the bleedin obvious. Corbyn really screwed things up. We will feel the impact for years. Boris on a freedom ride.

You’ll know when I get stuck in, the mods will change my user name to something nasty or ban me. As is their way, I’m quite happy to get stuck in but the snowflake mods get irritated. Only a matter of time. Watch this space.

I think you will find the press really screwed things up dOH .




Bodge isnt really getting a Free ride though is he .


Why do you think the mods are Snowflakes ?
I remember you throwing a HUFF because they wouldnt
change your name as a bit of a , stop taking yerself so seriously medicine
kind of thing .
Still I look forward to seeing your mixing it

Remember its 240 volts in Britain & not 100 volts as im sure
many of the vpn countries use .

The mods don’t like people who argue with them and dare to disagree with their views. So they use their powers as mods, things I have no power over, to get their way. Me, I call that cowardly. You, make up your own mind.

Boris is getting a free ride from the opposition. It’s his own party who are reining him in. There is no fecking opposition. As for the polls. The current turmoils is tomorrow’s chip paper. He has naff all to worry about, he is getting a free ride, and he will continue to get a free ride until we approach a new election. At that time the Tories will close ranks, support their leader and win. It’s what Tories do, stick together whilst they watch Labour destroy themselves. But Starmer is making slow progress.

If you believed the latest polls really make a difference to Boris right now then that would surprise me. He is in it for the long game, will throw a few niceties in the direction of his team who have reprimanded him, and steamroller onwards.