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Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:58 pm**

But then we just end up with thickos in charge.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:59 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:58 pm But then we just end up with thickos in charge.

And your point is caller?

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:02 pm**

Having lying, scheming, unprincipled, exploitative bastards in charge is one thing. But I draw the line at thickos.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:51 pm**

We need a sodding revolution, that’s what. Kick out all the sitting MP’s, and start again on a new deal. A basic salary, no second jobs, no other interests or consultancies and no b*stard expenses. The subsidised HoC bars and restaurants to be stopped, and normal prices applied. We’ve lost sight of what an MP is supposed to be, and so have they. They’re elected public servants, no more than that. Way too many, and most of them are on the Tory benches, are in it for what they can get out of it, to maintain the status quo and protecting their interests. I mean, what do the likes of Sunak, Rees-Mogg etc get out of it? Sunak is worth an estimated £200m and is easily the wealthiest member of the House, what on earth is he doing there? Ego, nothing more. R-M is there to keep the old system going, believing much like Cameron and Johnson did/do, they have a divine right to rule over the proles. So many Tories come from extremely privileged backgrounds that you can only assume they’re in it for what they can get out of it, not for what they can do for their constituents.

I f*cking hate them all.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:54 pm**

I think you need to come off the fence a bit there Stowy, and let us know what you really think.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:06 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:02 pm Having lying, scheming, unprincipled, exploitative bastards in charge is one thing. But I draw the line at thickos.

I'm alarmed by your assumption that they will be thickos. There are any number of posh thickos already in Parliament.

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:13 pm**

Stowaway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:51 pm We need a sodding revolution, that’s what. Kick out all the sitting MP’s, and start again on a new deal. A basic salary, no second jobs, no other interests or consultancies and no b*stard expenses. The subsidised HoC bars and restaurants to be stopped, and normal prices applied. We’ve lost sight of what an MP is supposed to be, and so have they. They’re elected public servants, no more than that. Way too many, and most of them are on the Tory benches, are in it for what they can get out of it, to maintain the status quo and protecting their interests. I mean, what do the likes of Sunak, Rees-Mogg etc get out of it? Sunak is worth an estimated £200m and is easily the wealthiest member of the House, what on earth is he doing there? Ego, nothing more. R-M is there to keep the old system going, believing much like Cameron and Johnson did/do, they have a divine right to rule over the proles. So many Tories come from extremely privileged backgrounds that you can only assume they’re in it for what they can get out of it, not for what they can do for their constituents.

I f*cking hate them all.

Yes they do have oversized egos and yes they want to profit from their position but more importantly they are there because they are the ruling class and are there to safeguard the interests of finance capital and of course Russia.

Posted: **Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:01 am**

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59228882

Geoffrey Cox.the next one to be caught ?

£700k for advising The British Virgin Islands .

Dodgy f*ckers them Tories !

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:29 am**

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:54 pm I think you need to come off the fence a bit there Stowy, and let us know what you really think.

I’m just sick of it. Cox is now showing what it’s really all about, having earned at least £6m in recent years, with £930,000 this year alone. That’s not a second job. Why does he feel the need to be an MP other than for status and ego?

I was good friends with my local MP in Ealing a few years back, and he said he barely had time to go to watch Fulham, let alone have a second job.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:47 am**

Because it opens up opportunities presumably. Being attorney general can't have hurt his earning potential and you get continues access to the commons after you leave your seat.

A lot of the benefit these MPs/lords/appointed non executive directorships to the civil service get is through networking and access, and understanding of process. When it comes to bidding for big government contracts, it's a massive help, as the Tories have shown throughout the pandemic.

What's always surprising to me in how cheap it is to buy influence. IDS was paid 25k by a company that stood to directly benefit from recommendations he was making in a report.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:54 am**

Exactly. I'd have held out for at least £30K.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:09 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:54 am Exactly. I'd have held out for at least £30K.

I would have done it for £24,999.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:52 pm**

Stowaway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:29 am
Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:54 pm I think you need to come off the fence a bit there Stowy, and let us know what you really think.
I’m just sick of it. Cox is now showing what it’s really all about, having earned at least £6m in recent years, with £930,000 this year alone. That’s not a second job. Why does he feel the need to be an MP other than for status and ego?

I was good friends with my local MP in Ealing a few years back, and he said he barely had time to go to watch Fulham, let alone have a second job.

Bit unfair to target Cox. He is after all out in the British Virgin Islands doing very important work defending the British Virgin Island against corruption charges by the UK Government.

You literally couldn’t make this sh*t up.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm**

Banning MPs from taking money and freebies from other governments might leave JC with a few cash flow issues.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:34 pm**

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm Banning MPs from taking money and freebies from other governments might leave JC with a few cash flow issues.

You want to be careful making accusations like that he's got over £300k in a legal fund to fight defamation actions.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:52 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:34 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm Banning MPs from taking money and freebies from other governments might leave JC with a few cash flow issues.
You want to be careful making accusations like that he's got over £300k in a legal fund to fight defamation actions.

And I've got access to MPs register of interests so I win

Saying that, he failed to declare his jolly to Tunisia.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:52 pm**

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm Banning MPs from taking money and freebies from other governments might leave JC with a few cash flow issues.

Not £6,000,000 short, it won’t.

Hang on, this is that thing again, isn’t it? You get me every bloody time.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:02 pm**

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:52 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:34 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm Banning MPs from taking money and freebies from other governments might leave JC with a few cash flow issues.
You want to be careful making accusations like that he's got over £300k in a legal fund to fight defamation actions.
And I've got access to MPs register of interests so I win

Saying that, he failed to declare his jolly to Tunisia.

So give us the details. List the freebies and cash from other govts. What do his expenses look like?

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm**

£20k from Press TV and a jolly to Tunisia paid for by their government to name two

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:14 pm**

Just £5,978,000 to go.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:14 pm**

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm £20k from Press TV and a jolly to Tunisia paid for by their government to name two

Any more other than these ones from 10 years ago?

How you getting on with the expenses info?

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:17 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:14 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:09 pm £20k from Press TV and a jolly to Tunisia paid for by their government to name two
Any more other than these ones from 10 years ago?

How you getting on with the expenses info?

Nah, I gave examples like you asked for.

You're welcome

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:17 pm**

He’s so good.

Instead of discussing the vast quantities of sleaze literally dripping out of the Tory party, we’re now goIng over Corbyns expense claims.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:59 pm**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:17 pm He’s so good.

Instead of discussing the vast quantities of sleaze literally dripping out of the Tory party, we’re now goIng over Corbyns expense claims.

Wasn't it obvious the moment he brought Corbyn into the argument?

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:07 pm**

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:52 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:34 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm Banning MPs from taking money and freebies from other governments might leave JC with a few cash flow issues.
You want to be careful making accusations like that he's got over £300k in a legal fund to fight defamation actions.
And I've got access to MPs register of interests so I win

Saying that, he failed to declare his jolly to Tunisia.

you're hardly Julian Assange !

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