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Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:44 am It's just spam

I hope the moderator and Admin take appropriate action

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Seems Labour do well when Keir is isolating

Seems Labour.do well when people realise the
Tories are Sc*mmy Money grabbing f*ckwits .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59190547


Former Prime Minister Sir John Major has said that triggering Article 16 and
suspending parts of the Northern Ireland Protocol would be "colossally stupid".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59188972

Ex-PM John Major: Government handling of Paterson case shameful


The former PM doesnt hold back on the present government .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:27 pm Seems Labour.do well when people realise the
Tories are Sc*mmy Money grabbing f*ckwits .

Have to agree, not a fan of people who can barely spell and rely entirely on the public purse either.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:25 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:27 pm Seems Labour.do well when people realise the
Tories are Sc*mmy Money grabbing f*ckwits .

Have to agree, not a fan of people who can barely spell and rely entirely on the public purse either.

The Public Purse is specifically for the Public &
Not for paid Employees .

You'll understand politics one day
maybe when youve grown up a bit

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:43 am

Tell em Lad

Tory whip to force through vote allowing the mucky water companies to continue pumping sh*t into watercourses.

Turds everywhere, but hey you voted for them.

There's a cracking list of Tory 2nd jobbers here
https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/lond ... oc-at-cop/

Aside from Geoffrey Cox, who may be missing one or two of his constituency surgeries due the commute. we have:

former Cabinet Minister Andrew Mitchell has six different consultancy jobs earning him £182,000
Julian Smith is earning £144,000 from three firms
Chris Grayling is on £100,000 advising a ports operator (you couldn't make this one up)
Mark Garnier earns £90,000 a year advising two companies
Alun Cairns is on £60,000 advising three firms
Ruth Edwards gets £60,000 per year from a software company
Stephen Hammond is on £60,000 a year from an investment firm
Steve Brine gets £60,000 a year from three companies
David Davis receives £50,000 a year from two companies
ex-energy minister John Hayes earning £50,000 a year advising an energy company.

It's a joke and should be ended... with a bit of a bump in their base pay (that'll never happen)

It's one of those scandals (like train prices going up) that regularly pops up then people shrug and go away.

I know it's whatabouterry but..... Corbyn was pulled up for taking £20k from the Iranian State propaganda arm to hold a phone in where people called in to berate jews and that was a smeer/awful depending on your team.

Ban second jobs with exceptions for working for the state to accommodate doctors etc

Who the f*ck would want to take a pay cut and work as an MP for £82K?

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm Who the f*ck would want to take a pay cut and work as an MP for £82K?

Exactly. Why shouldn’t they have other jobs.

Just give them £125-175k and ban other jobs

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm Who the f*ck would want to take a pay cut and work as an MP for £82K?

Someone who wasn't in it for the cash?

StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:29 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm Who the f*ck would want to take a pay cut and work as an MP for £82K?

Someone who wasn't in it for the cash?

Then you'll only attract the comfortable working class and ultra rich

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:37 pm It's a joke and should be ended... with a bit of a bump in their base pay (that'll never happen)

It's one of those scandals (like train prices going up) that regularly pops up then people shrug and go away.

I know it's whatabouterry but..... Corbyn was pulled up for taking £20k from the Iranian State propaganda arm to hold a phone in where people called in to berate jews and that was a smeer/awful depending on your team.

Ban second jobs with exceptions for working for the state to accommodate doctors etc

Agreed with your conclusion.

I’m not convinced about upping the salary. I know it’s lower than could be earned in the private sector holding a similarly senior position but they should be doing this as a public service, not for the dosh.

Saying that, the likes of Johnson and Rees Mogg and Sunak etc to whom £100k p.a. Is an irrelevance would still be in these roles doing their damage because it’s not about the salary for their kind.

I think you could go further an provide serviced apartments for those who have to stay in town, rather than allowing second homes with all the costs paid by the state and the profits on them retained. If you're expecting people to work away from home and do late nights etc then I don't see anything wrong in providing them with decent digs.

Is £82 K (live in, plus staff and expenses) a low salary down there? It seems pretty big from up here.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:43 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:37 pm It's a joke and should be ended... with a bit of a bump in their base pay (that'll never happen)

It's one of those scandals (like train prices going up) that regularly pops up then people shrug and go away.

I know it's whatabouterry but..... Corbyn was pulled up for taking £20k from the Iranian State propaganda arm to hold a phone in where people called in to berate jews and that was a smeer/awful depending on your team.

Ban second jobs with exceptions for working for the state to accommodate doctors etc

Agreed with your conclusion.

I’m not convinced about upping the salary. I know it’s lower than could be earned in the private sector holding a similarly senior position but they should be doing this as a public service, not for the dosh.

Saying that, the likes of Johnson and Rees Mogg and Sunak etc to whom £100k p.a. Is an irrelevance would still be in these roles doing their damage because it’s not about the salary for their kind.

The public service/vocation argument is what successive governments have used to keep nurse/police/fire etc pay low/frozen and they get away with it because there's always people who want to do it.

It's a shame that the same key workers who were identified as the cogs that keep the country going last Spring are now forgotten.

MPs are part of a small minority of people we entrust to make decisions on how we're governed and should be paid well for it. Not least because for some they give up their career for only 2 years employment before losing their seat and the good ones work joke hours for their constituency.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:47 pm I think you could go further an provide serviced apartments for those who have to stay in town, rather than allowing second homes with all the costs paid by the state and the profits on them retained. If you're expecting people to work away from home and do late nights etc then I don't see anything wrong in providing them with decent digs.

Is £82 K (live in, plus staff and expenses) a low salary down there? It seems pretty big from up here.

It's not a salary to be sniffed at for sure for most of us

It's the question of whether we want to make the job (which can be very limited) enticing for everyone including the so called high fliers and working classes.

A good MP more than earns their money, we shouldn't be putting people off from either end of the spectrum and given their responsibility/role I don't think it's obtuse to suggest they earn similar to what an experienced NHS doctor earns

StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:47 pm
Is £82 K (live in, plus staff and expenses) a low salary down there? It seems pretty big from up here.

A household income less that £90K actually qualifies you for some Affordable Housing products. Money ain't what it used to be.

Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:12 pm

StillSpike wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:47 pm
Is £82 K (live in, plus staff and expenses) a low salary down there? It seems pretty big from up here.

A household income less that £90K actually qualifies you for some Affordable Housing products. Money ain't what it used to be.

Next you'll be telling me you pay more that £3.50 for a pint.

A workers MP on a workers wage is what is required.

How can you claim to represent "the people" if you earn three times the average wage?