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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:56 am
by BoniO
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:38 am
The reason we've responded so badly is because of how are governed. The Tories have spent the last decade further centralising the most centralised state in the developed world. And when a crisis comes along that requires the state to be agile, utilise local knowledge and expertise, and generate genuine local consent, it has shown up all the shortcomings that power hoarding at the centre brings.
It's worth remembering that the organisation that the Tories are inexplicably pinning this all on (Public Health England) is a Tory creation from 8 years ago, when they abolished regional health boards.
Yes, and no. I take your point about centralisation but you can't ignore that the vacuum where Central Govt should have been is the biggest single factor for why we are where we are. Centralisation then de-centralisation has been the game of ping pong played for decades in the UK. Regardless of which of these styles is currently in place, this government has been found lacking in moral fibre, strength, intelligence and management capability. The full house really. Oh, and honesty & integrity could do with improving a bit as well.........
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:01 am
by JimbO
Might as well kiss the hospitality business goodbye then.
Their not telling any pubs and restaurants to close but they might as well as no bugger will be in them after Friday night.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:25 am
by Mistadobalina
Treatments are a lot better now so hopefully not. But it's looking grim.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am
by Orient Punxx
JimbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:01 am
Might as well kiss the hospitality business goodbye then.
Their not telling any pubs and restaurants to close but they might as well as no bugger will be in them after Friday night.
Pubs set for boom time - all those people who can’t meet indoors can meet down the pub instead.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:53 am
by Long slender neck
I dont think they can.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:59 am
by Story of O
Only people from same household, but how do they police that?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:06 pm
by Max B Gold
Depends where you live. In some areas you can do what you want if there is a y in the name of the day.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:07 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Hospitality is fu*ked then, can see some of the holding companies going bust, Stonegate is in real trouble
Still though, all must be sacrificed at the altar of lockdown for some people
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:14 pm
by Mick McQuaid
Which people?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:20 pm
by Max B Gold
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:21 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:59 am
Only people from same household, but how do they police that?
Same as how do they police people being in others homes, they don't.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:24 pm
by Max B Gold
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:21 pm
Story of O wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:59 am
Only people from same household, but how do they police that?
Same as how do they police people being in others homes, they don't.
Yes they do. Especially if you have a Grassin' Alexa Box or a Samsung telly.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:33 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
The Government and associated cheerleaders
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:05 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Hopefully they've learnt their lesson after f*cking about for too long in Feb and March and didnt lockdown until it was effectively too late.
Saying that, i haven't got a f*cking clue what their logic right now nor do i have any faith that they know.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:36 pm
by BoniO
Of course they don't know. They're not following the science just trying to take a "middle of the road" approach which is achieving f-all. Cunch of B*nts.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm
by Max B Gold
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
Hopefully they've learnt their lesson after f*cking about for too long in Feb and March and didnt lockdown until it was effectively too late.
Saying that, i haven't got a f*cking clue what their logic right now nor do i have any faith that they know.
They don't know. They are playing politics with proles lives by ignoring the advice of their scientific health advisors. They knew 3 weeks go the second wave had started and and lockdown was required.
However, the economy must be kept going to produce profits for the rich. Workers lives are expendable and always have been. Why do i have to keep telling youse this. FFS!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
Hopefully they've learnt their lesson after f*cking about for too long in Feb and March and didnt lockdown until it was effectively too late.
Saying that, i haven't got a f*cking clue what their logic right now nor do i have any faith that they know.
They don't know. They are playing politics with proles lives by ignoring the advice of their scientific health advisors. They knew 3 weeks go the second wave had started and anlockdown was required.
However, the economy must be kept going to produce profits for the rich. Workers lives are expendable and always have been. Why do i have to keep telling youse this. FFS!
Funny that London, and places like Essex, which are full off people who commute on stuffy and packed trains into the city now have tighter restrictions.
Still, at least about a month ago, the same government wasn't telling people they were unpatriotic if they didnt go into the office and to 'think of poor pret'.
You reap what you sow and all that.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
Hopefully they've learnt their lesson after f*cking about for too long in Feb and March and didnt lockdown until it was effectively too late.
Saying that, i haven't got a f*cking clue what their logic right now nor do i have any faith that they know.
They don't know. They are playing politics with proles lives by ignoring the advice of their scientific health advisors. They knew 3 weeks go the second wave had started and anlockdown was required.
However, the economy must be kept going to produce profits for the rich. Workers lives are expendable and always have been. Why do i have to keep telling youse this. FFS!
Funny that London, and places like Essex, which are full off people who commute on stuffy and packed trains into the city now have tighter restrictions.
Still, at least about a month ago, the same government wasn't telling people they were unpatriotic if they didnt go into the office and to 'think of poor pret'.
You reap what you sow and all that.
What percentage of cases are acquired through commuting?
You don't know do you?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:02 pm
by BoniO
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm
They don't know. They are playing politics with proles lives by ignoring the advice of their scientific health advisors. They knew 3 weeks go the second wave had started and anlockdown was required.
However, the economy must be kept going to produce profits for the rich. Workers lives are expendable and always have been. Why do i have to keep telling youse this. FFS!
Funny that London, and places like Essex, which are full off people who commute on stuffy and packed trains into the city now have tighter restrictions.
Still, at least about a month ago, the same government wasn't telling people they were unpatriotic if they didnt go into the office and to 'think of poor pret'.
You reap what you sow and all that.
What percentage of cases are acquired through commuting?
You don't know do you?
And neither do you so you can't disprove what he's saying. Next!
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:05 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:02 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:52 pm
Funny that London, and places like Essex, which are full off people who commute on stuffy and packed trains into the city now have tighter restrictions.
Still, at least about a month ago, the same government wasn't telling people they were unpatriotic if they didnt go into the office and to 'think of poor pret'.
You reap what you sow and all that.
What percentage of cases are acquired through commuting?
You don't know do you?
And neither do you so you can't disprove what he's saying. Next!
I do, the statistics are widely available
Very cute though
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:19 pm
by Story of O
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:49 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:24 pm
Hopefully they've learnt their lesson after f*cking about for too long in Feb and March and didnt lockdown until it was effectively too late.
Saying that, i haven't got a f*cking clue what their logic right now nor do i have any faith that they know.
They don't know. They are playing politics with proles lives by ignoring the advice of their scientific health advisors. They knew 3 weeks go the second wave had started and and lockdown was required.
However, the economy must be kept going to produce profits for the rich. Workers lives are expendable and always have been. Why do i have to keep telling youse this. FFS!
Would the workers not lose their jobs if the economy was just ignored? And yes I know a lot have.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:35 pm
by George M
Max B Gold. Utter Bollox. Why is it that anyone who earns money are seen as the villain. What’s have they got to do with this Virus. The hard working people are those that fund the NHS , the benefits, your pension , this crap government. Such a childish and ill thought out comment
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:35 pm
by George M
Max B Gold. Utter Bollox. Why is it that anyone who earns money are seen as the villain. What’s have they got to do with this Virus. The hard working people are those that fund the NHS , the benefits, your pension , this crap government. Such a childish and ill thought out comment
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:43 pm
by George M
Also , please provide statistics of how many cases have been transmitted on the tube or on planes. Let’s lock down. Stop people earning money, ruin good businesses , destroy prospect for the young. And for what. So in 3 months time we can do it all again. It’s either a repeat of the March lockdown, or no lockdown. You decide
