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Sure, loads.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:26 am Are there any countries that DONT consider Hamas a terrorist organisation?
They would get annihilated, it'd bring the full weight of the US army down on them. The Iranian regime is cynical and vile, but not completely stupid.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:31 am I wonder if Iran has had a moments thought about getting directly involved. Its thought they fund Hamas, but I mean actually attacking Israel.
I know they'd like to, but the ramifications would be massive
To be fair, it's not like there's any western states that are offering any assistance is it?Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:37 amSays a lot.Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is expected to visit Moscow, Russian news media quoted the Palestinian envoy to Moscow as saying late on Monday.
Why have you listed the World Axis of Evil?Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:32 amSure, loads.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:26 am Are there any countries that DONT consider Hamas a terrorist organisation?
Iran, North Korea, Russia, Lebanon, Qatar, Afghanistan, Algeria, Libya, Syria, Turkey, China, to name but a few.
What you say is probably true, but if the USA attacked Iran, would China or Russia come to Irans aid, or would they just allow the US to destroy Iran?Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:34 amThey would get annihilated, it'd bring the full weight of the US army down on them. The Iranian regime is cynical and vile, but not completely stupid.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:31 am I wonder if Iran has had a moments thought about getting directly involved. Its thought they fund Hamas, but I mean actually attacking Israel.
I know they'd like to, but the ramifications would be massive
Aside from anything else, you feel Russia might have their own problems to deal with right now.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:07 pm Why would China or Russia intervene on Iran's behalf? I can't think of a single incentive for them to do so.
"the only way"?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:56 pm Today, I'm thinking of all those in Israel and Palestine suffering unimaginable pain, trauma and fear.
The horrific attacks on civilians in Israel were deplorable. This cannot justify the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians, who are paying the price for a crime they did not commit.
Half of Gaza’s population are children. Trapped in an open-air prison without food, water, gas or electricity, they are watching their homes turn to rubble with nowhere to go.
We should condemn the use of violence against all civilians, Israeli and Palestinian. And we must renew our calls for an immediate ceasefire to prevent any further loss of life.
In times of war, we need more voices for peace — and the only way to achieve peace is to end the occupation.
There is no alternative for a resolution and lasting peace. Hence the phrase the "only way".Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:05 pm"the only way"?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:56 pm Today, I'm thinking of all those in Israel and Palestine suffering unimaginable pain, trauma and fear.
The horrific attacks on civilians in Israel were deplorable. This cannot justify the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians, who are paying the price for a crime they did not commit.
Half of Gaza’s population are children. Trapped in an open-air prison without food, water, gas or electricity, they are watching their homes turn to rubble with nowhere to go.
We should condemn the use of violence against all civilians, Israeli and Palestinian. And we must renew our calls for an immediate ceasefire to prevent any further loss of life.
In times of war, we need more voices for peace — and the only way to achieve peace is to end the occupation.
LiarMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:10 pmThere is no alternative for a resolution and lasting peace. Hence the phrase the "only way".Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:05 pm"the only way"?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:56 pm Today, I'm thinking of all those in Israel and Palestine suffering unimaginable pain, trauma and fear.
The horrific attacks on civilians in Israel were deplorable. This cannot justify the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians, who are paying the price for a crime they did not commit.
Half of Gaza’s population are children. Trapped in an open-air prison without food, water, gas or electricity, they are watching their homes turn to rubble with nowhere to go.
We should condemn the use of violence against all civilians, Israeli and Palestinian. And we must renew our calls for an immediate ceasefire to prevent any further loss of life.
In times of war, we need more voices for peace — and the only way to achieve peace is to end the occupation.
If you understood what Israel has been doing since 1967, you wouldn't need to ask that question.Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:13 pm So how do you end the occupation?
Enlighten us please.
I'm not Jewish but you can't just start at 1967. No other race has been persecuted by so many regimes over so long a period and it was made worse by their displacement during WW2. The creation of the modern state of Israel and the "local" opposition to it over the past c.70 years has made them both super protective and super paranoid.Admin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:28 pmIf you understood what Israel has been doing since 1967, you wouldn't need to ask that question.Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:13 pm So how do you end the occupation?
Enlighten us please.
It's one of those platitudes that gets rolled out now and again, despite the historical evidence to the contrary, and usually by somebody who has little of value to add to the discussion but feels they need to say something anyway. Sometimes peace is achieved through one side inflicting a comprehensive defeat upon the other. I'm sure if we all think hard enough we can think of a few notable examples.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:05 pm"the only way"?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:56 pm Today, I'm thinking of all those in Israel and Palestine suffering unimaginable pain, trauma and fear.
The horrific attacks on civilians in Israel were deplorable. This cannot justify the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians, who are paying the price for a crime they did not commit.
Half of Gaza’s population are children. Trapped in an open-air prison without food, water, gas or electricity, they are watching their homes turn to rubble with nowhere to go.
We should condemn the use of violence against all civilians, Israeli and Palestinian. And we must renew our calls for an immediate ceasefire to prevent any further loss of life.
In times of war, we need more voices for peace — and the only way to achieve peace is to end the occupation.
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:59 pm After WW1 the area was ours to carve up and perhaps we've ballsed it slightly.
Yeah, that was a bit of a whoopsyI thought Jeremy's words made a lot of sense.Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:47 pmIt's one of those platitudes that gets rolled out now and again, despite the historical evidence to the contrary, and usually by somebody who has little of value to add to the discussion but feels they need to say something anyway. Sometimes peace is achieved through one side inflicting a comprehensive defeat upon the other. I'm sure if we all think hard enough we can think of a few notable examples.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:05 pm"the only way"?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:56 pm Today, I'm thinking of all those in Israel and Palestine suffering unimaginable pain, trauma and fear.
The horrific attacks on civilians in Israel were deplorable. This cannot justify the indiscriminate killing of Palestinians, who are paying the price for a crime they did not commit.
Half of Gaza’s population are children. Trapped in an open-air prison without food, water, gas or electricity, they are watching their homes turn to rubble with nowhere to go.
We should condemn the use of violence against all civilians, Israeli and Palestinian. And we must renew our calls for an immediate ceasefire to prevent any further loss of life.
In times of war, we need more voices for peace — and the only way to achieve peace is to end the occupation.
However, I know that Maxy knows this as he does know his history. And, as he's often fond of saying; the only way to beat the fascists is to SMASH them. So I can only conclude that he's having a bit of fun with us, and simply quoting someone else whose world view is little more evolved than that of an eternal sixth-form student protestor.
Reported please perma ban yourself. It isn't your first offence.Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:25 pmLiarMax B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:10 pmThere is no alternative for a resolution and lasting peace. Hence the phrase the "only way".
Getting rid of Benni would be a start.Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:13 pm So how do you end the occupation?
Enlighten us please.