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Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:52 pm Reform overtake Tories for the first time in a national poll

https://news.sky.com/story/election-lat ... l-12593360

Maybe Labour should rethink about reducing the voting age to 16

Says they could be on a wind-up, then in the next breath that they have "strong feelings" about him. Make your mind up.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:59 pm Oh God!

She's no Lisa Mafia but this is a decent effort - I'm lovin it, lovin it, lovin it.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:53 pm We spent 4 years hearing Yougov was Tory owned

Why on earth would anyone think that?

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:05 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:52 pm Reform overtake Tories for the first time in a national poll

https://news.sky.com/story/election-lat ... l-12593360

Maybe Labour should rethink about reducing the voting age to 16

It’s Aaron Bastani

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:18 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:53 pm We spent 4 years hearing Yougov was Tory owned

Why on earth would anyone think that?

Not sure mate, I’ll wait for Survation to tell me

Reform overtake the Tories in the last poll. Good. Just labour to go in 2-3 years and we can consign the current political system/parties to the bin forever.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:00 pm Reform overtake the Tories in the last poll. Good. Just labour to go in 2-3 years and we can consign the current political system/parties to the bin forever.

Yeah, a fascist dictatorship under Farage would be much better (that is somewhat tongue in cheek but it’s what some of the reform knobheads, and their pals, have said they’d like).

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:06 pm

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:00 pm Reform overtake the Tories in the last poll. Good. Just labour to go in 2-3 years and we can consign the current political system/parties to the bin forever.

Yeah, a fascist dictatorship under Farage would be much better (that is somewhat tongue in cheek but it’s what some of the reform knobheads, and their pals, have said they’d like).

If you think the current two party system is working I can’t help you. Farage is not a fascist, don’t be ridiculous. Yes, he is a populist but so what. It’s about time the popular opinion meant something in this country.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:11 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:06 pm

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:00 pm Reform overtake the Tories in the last poll. Good. Just labour to go in 2-3 years and we can consign the current political system/parties to the bin forever.

Yeah, a fascist dictatorship under Farage would be much better (that is somewhat tongue in cheek but it’s what some of the reform knobheads, and their pals, have said they’d like).

If you think the current two party system is working I can’t help you. Farage is not a fascist, don’t be ridiculous. Yes, he is a populist but so what. It’s about time the popular opinion meant something in this country.

I haven’t said the current 2 party system is working. Please don’t make sh*t up. If Farage isn’t a fascist then he’s certainly pals with a lot of them. A bit like the (very old and not in the best of taste) joke - “I’m not homosexual but my boyfriend is”.

Reports in Oz that Reform are polling higher than the tories and if they happen LibDem will be in opposition!

I still think the turnout for the Tories will be much higher on the day. And that Reform UK will end up with one MP. But if they start consistently polling in the low 20s, then that could change.

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:18 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:53 pm We spent 4 years hearing Yougov was Tory owned

Why on earth would anyone think that?

Not sure mate, I’ll wait for Survation to tell me

Just had a little check up, seems people might think that because of all the links between Yougov and the Tory party.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:15 pm Says they could be on a wind-up, then in the next breath that they have "strong feelings" about him. Make your mind up.

I think what Bastani is clumsily alluding to is the degree to which far right parties are succeeding in brand penetration to an increasing amount of younger people across Europe. We often think of right wing reactionaries as appealing to the old farts, but the data emerging from the recent European elections is that this is no longer the case.

Bastani showing how naive he is with these comments.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:29 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:18 pm

Why on earth would anyone think that?

Not sure mate, I’ll wait for Survation to tell me

Just had a little check up, seems people might think that because of all the links between Yougov and the Tory party.

Damn, so Tories finishing third behind Reform, something no other polling company is predicting means it’s actually worse for them than expected? Because they’re Tory owned?

That would be huge if true

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:20 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:29 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 pm

Not sure mate, I’ll wait for Survation to tell me

Just had a little check up, seems people might think that because of all the links between Yougov and the Tory party.

Damn, so Tories finishing third behind Reform, something no other polling company is predicting means it’s actually worse for them than expected? Because they’re Tory owned?

That would be huge if true

Sort of depends which tories doesn’t it? Imagine there’s a fair few that want to embarrass the current regime for their own gain

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:20 pm

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:29 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:33 pm

Not sure mate, I’ll wait for Survation to tell me

Just had a little check up, seems people might think that because of all the links between Yougov and the Tory party.

Damn, so Tories finishing third behind Reform, something no other polling company is predicting means it’s actually worse for them than expected? Because they’re Tory owned?

That would be huge if true

I think what's really going on is that the Tory owned polling company is trying to scare Tory voters back into the fold by pretending Reform are ahead of them. A lot of Tories don't like Farage.

Enjoying the conspiracy theories lads

With COYOs gone I’m proud you’re filling in

Sample size 10,000 - Reform and Tories level

Still think the shy Tory vote will turn up on the day.

Hearing that large numbers of Reform postal votes being eliminated. As ballots being submitted unsigned.

Interested to read that ex Labour MP Keith Vaz has finally been kicked out of the Labour Party, after announcing he is making a comeback for the "One Leicester" party in Leicester East and standing on July 4th.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... ster-party

He'll be standing against another ex Labour MP Claudia Webbe, who was expelled from Labour after being convicted of harassment in 2021, as well as 8 other candidates. Neither are expected to win, with Labour candidate and multi-millionaire Rajesh Agrawal (parachuted in, ex London Deputy Mayor) predicted to take the seat.

Good luck to Vaz

Hopefully this working class washing machine salesman can defeat the parachuted in Labour candidate

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:02 pm Enjoying the conspiracy theories lads

With COYOs gone I’m proud you’re filling in

This is a strange old hill to die on.