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Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:38 pm
by George M
BoniO wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:13 pm
George wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
BoniO wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:52 pm

All a question of scale isn't it. Not defending Blair but the saving he made is small fry compared to the institutionalised thieving and corruption under the Tories. Tens of billions of pounds have gone into the pockets of Tories and their supporters. No comparison to Blair really is there?
Once again , I agree. I am happy to accept criticism of the Tories and Boris , and hopefully any wrongdoing will be investigated and those responsible, punished. So please tell me , why is it right to criticise the Amazons and Apples of the world for avoiding tax , but not Blair.
Point out where I've said "don't criticise Blair" - helpful hint - I haven't. But comparing his use of the law to reduce his tax burden with the actions of this government is farcical. The schemes/cons/corruption of this government are unparalleled.
I wasn’t accusing you personally. I wasn’t comparing his actions with this government. It’s just a question of stones and glass houses

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:39 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:33 pm Blair should be treated as a Hero for aligning Britain with the
Anti Terror U.S.A side & saving all who live here from being over run by Yankee Troops .
You have reached new heights of stupidity. Well done

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:41 pm
by tuffers#1
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:32 pm
George wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:37 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:05 pm George ?

Where are you George ?
Foolish man. It was an illegal war. Blair was Prime Minister then just as Boris is now. Boris is responsible for any Government crime. Blair was then.
Britain was involved in an Ilegal war ?

I think you will find that Blair & Therefore Britain
were under threat of attack from the U.S.A if they
as your name sake puts it
" WITH US or AGAINST US " .

Also can you show me where there was a war in Iraq
other than the one with stomin Norman & bush senior .


As what happened after wasnt a war as war was not declared like
the original one was .

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:39 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:33 pm Blair should be treated as a Hero for aligning Britain with the
Anti Terror U.S.A side & saving all who live here from being over run by Yankee Troops .
You have reached new heights of stupidity. Well done


Tell me what would have happened had he opposed the Call
with us or against us ?

Why are you claiming im the stupid one ?

Seriously , had any leader of Britain stood against the U.S
what would have happened to it ?

Show me any reasoning you may have for claiming me & Stupidity .

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:04 pm
by tuffers#1
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:37 pm
George wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:30 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:29 pm

The Tories are NOT INTERESTED in doing THE RIGHT THING
they are only Interested IN MAKING THEMSELVES RICHER .

Nothing else matters
See my previous Blair post
Blair broke NO RULES
Hancock did .

Big Big difference 😁
see Georgie
its like i said here ⬆️

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Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:11 pm
by tuffers#1

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:58 pm
by tuffers#1
Boris Johnson has not ruled out shortages continuing until Christmas,
only saying that the festive period will be "considerably better" than last year.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... r-12424853

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:36 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Army take to the streets to deliver fuel to Britain’s forecourts (well, London and the south east mainly).

CON +2

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16318560/ ... very-army/

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:42 am
by Dunners
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:36 am Army take to the streets to deliver fuel to Britain’s forecourts (well, London and the south east mainly).

CON +2

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16318560/ ... very-army/
:D

You've got to hand it to them. Boris managed to spin this so it is now all part of the post-Brexit master plan to transition away from a low-wage economy as a result of uncontrolled mass immigration. And right there, at a stroke, it just gets swallowed up into the culture war.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:54 am
by BoniO
Dunners wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:42 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:36 am Army take to the streets to deliver fuel to Britain’s forecourts (well, London and the south east mainly).

CON +2

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16318560/ ... very-army/
:D

You've got to hand it to them. Boris managed to spin this so it is now all part of the post-Brexit master plan to transition away from a low-wage economy as a result of uncontrolled mass immigration. And right there, at a stroke, it just gets swallowed up into the culture war.
Only if you're impressed by a serial liar. Anyone who is needs to take a good look at themselves.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 10:56 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Well done to our brave boys and girls stepping in to save us again 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:35 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dodgy foreign fraudster identified as major Tory donor and Boris backer.

CON +3

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58783460

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:46 am
by Dunners
It's just a Remoaner smear.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:47 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm
George wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:39 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:33 pm Blair should be treated as a Hero for aligning Britain with the
Anti Terror U.S.A side & saving all who live here from being over run by Yankee Troops .
You have reached new heights of stupidity. Well done


Tell me what would have happened had he opposed the Call
with us or against us ?

Why are you claiming im the stupid one ?

Seriously , had any leader of Britain stood against the U.S
what would have happened to it ?

Show me any reasoning you may have for claiming me & Stupidity .
Why would any UK leader with an ounce of backbone take any notice of those Mickey Mouse muppits. Oh Yes . The other Muppit Blair

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:37 pm
by Dohnut
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:35 am Dodgy foreign fraudster identified as major Tory donor and Boris backer.

CON +3

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58783460
I look forward to your evidence of wrongdoing by the person concerned in order to substantiate that claim.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:53 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Surprised you’ve rushed to the defence of the tories and their dodgy donors.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:24 pm
by Dohnut
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:53 pm Surprised you’ve rushed to the defence of the tories and their dodgy donors.
Not at all. If he guilty, prosecute. I just want evidence to support your claim. I’ve seen none this far, perhaps you have.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
These crooks don’t get prosecuted, just fined.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:35 pm
by Dohnut
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:34 pm These crooks don’t get prosecuted, just fined.
Your evidence that he is a crook in this case?

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:47 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
I haven’t got any, sorry.

I wish a well respected broadcaster would do an investigation to find out if he was involved in this corruption scandal or not.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:50 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:47 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:44 pm
George wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:39 pm

You have reached new heights of stupidity. Well done


Tell me what would have happened had he opposed the Call
with us or against us ?

Why are you claiming im the stupid one ?

Seriously , had any leader of Britain stood against the U.S
what would have happened to it ?

Show me any reasoning you may have for claiming me & Stupidity .
Why would any UK leader with an ounce of backbone take any notice of those Mickey Mouse muppits. Oh Yes . The other Muppit Blair
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:04 pm
by Dohnut
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:47 pm I haven’t got any, sorry.

I wish a well respected broadcaster would do an investigation to find out if he was involved in this corruption scandal or not.
I too hope this will be investigated and the BBC, smelling Tory sleaze, will do so with gusto.

The way they have portrayed this certainly could be accused of bias, leading people to believe his crime is proven, when it is not by a long way. Guilt by association is a dangerous thing.

When I first read the BBC stuff I assumed his guilt. Then I read it more carefully. Being a consultant to a dodgy firm does not make that consultant dodgy.

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:26 pm
by George M
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:33 pm Blair should be treated as a Hero for aligning Britain with the
Anti Terror U.S.A side & saving all who live here from being over run by Yankee Troops .
Blair will be treated for what he is . A war criminal and tax avoider .

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:13 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:26 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:33 pm Blair should be treated as a Hero for aligning Britain with the
Anti Terror U.S.A side & saving all who live here from being over run by Yankee Troops .
Blair will be treated for what he is . A war criminal and tax avoider .
Where will he be treated ?
Will this happen in our life times ?

Johnson is responsible for far more deaths .
137,000 in fact

Re: Tory Watch

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:20 pm
by tuffers#1
Dohnut wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:37 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:35 am Dodgy foreign fraudster identified as major Tory donor and Boris backer.

CON +3

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58783460
I look forward to your evidence of wrongdoing by the person concerned in order to substantiate that claim.
what evidence do you need &
more importantly why do you need to see it ?