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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:49 am
You do . Its George with a reasoned and sympathetic viewRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:00 am At least we now know with absolute certainty who was behind the Thor character.
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You do . Its George with a reasoned and sympathetic viewRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:00 am At least we now know with absolute certainty who was behind the Thor character.
Lefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
Who's job was it to put HGV testing facilities in place?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 amLefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
What alias will you be spouting this drivel under in 5 years Thorge?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 amLefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
Think you are missing the point . There was limited testing during the pandemic . Would you have sat in a cab with a stranger . They were not testing . Same with driving tests . There is a backlogApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:00 amWho's job was it to put HGV testing facilities in place?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 amLefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
Chris from LBCMax B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:36 amWhat alias will you be spouting this drivel under in 5 years Thorge?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 amLefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
Stop being a fool . You are better than that. If in 5 years i can still be bothered to post , i will still be George . Just like i have been since i joined . This is an Orient forum , not a Labour forum . Next thing you will be telling us that there was zero homeless and zero unemployment under Labour . If that was the case , what did they do with all the spare benefit moneyMax B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:36 amWhat alias will you be spouting this drivel under in 5 years Thorge?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 amLefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
Feel free to point out which bits are drivel .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:36 amWhat alias will you be spouting this drivel under in 5 years Thorge?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 amLefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.Jack wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:35 am We have food shortages
we have gas shortages
we have petrol shortages
we have HGV driver shortages
we have the worst inflation for ages.....and still the media dont hold Johnson and the Tories to account
The Tories told us this is what would happen if we voted for Corbyn, and voted to remain in the EU in 2019
" Were a safe pair of hands" said the Tories at the last election.
Never believe a Tory my old dad told me many years ago. As true then as it is now
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
All of it. HTH.George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 amFeel free to point out which bits are drivel .Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:36 amWhat alias will you be spouting this drivel under in 5 years Thorge?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 am
Lefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
That’s cool I don’t believe in personal responsibility eitherRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:36 pmYes, they can be blamed.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:21 pm FFS getting back to the original argument now - don't want to go all still wrong
The govt can't be blamed for making families homeless if a private landlord chooses to legally evict a tenant
Screaming scummy and nasty party doesn't fix things for these ppl, but then I've never associated the left with wanting to solve problems
This family have been evicted because the Government did not support them during the pandemic. It’s as simple as that.
I believe in a safety net to catch people that fall on difficult times. Especially when those difficult times are brought about by a lengthy global pandemic.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:13 amThat’s cool I don’t believe in personal responsibility eitherRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:36 pmYes, they can be blamed.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:21 pm FFS getting back to the original argument now - don't want to go all still wrong
The govt can't be blamed for making families homeless if a private landlord chooses to legally evict a tenant
Screaming scummy and nasty party doesn't fix things for these ppl, but then I've never associated the left with wanting to solve problems
This family have been evicted because the Government did not support them during the pandemic. It’s as simple as that.
Both working people but were near breadline. When did being well off equate to being responsible? Are low income people supposed to not have families or something?Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:13 amThat’s cool I don’t believe in personal responsibility eitherRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:36 pmYes, they can be blamed.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:21 pm FFS getting back to the original argument now - don't want to go all still wrong
The govt can't be blamed for making families homeless if a private landlord chooses to legally evict a tenant
Screaming scummy and nasty party doesn't fix things for these ppl, but then I've never associated the left with wanting to solve problems
This family have been evicted because the Government did not support them during the pandemic. It’s as simple as that.
I'll ask again...why was there limited testing during the pandemic?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:51 amThink you are missing the point . There was limited testing during the pandemic . Would you have sat in a cab with a stranger . They were not testing . Same with driving tests . There is a backlogApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:00 amWho's job was it to put HGV testing facilities in place?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:56 am
Lefty Nonsense . All short term issues as a result of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic and Brexit . Most of the labour we relied on was either told to leave , or decided to leave rather than be locked up in their house with no work.
There were no HGV testing facilities during the pandemic so testing centres are playing catch up . So food , petrol , and driver shortages are as a result of that .
Inflation will always rise when there are not enough goods to go around .
All Brexit voters would have known all this , of course , when they voted to leave .
I suspect that if the pandemic had started a year earlier , we would still be in the EU . Our departure would have been suspended and then possibly cancelled .
Lets see where we are in 5 years
He cant or wont Answer WumbsApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:11 pmI'll ask again...why was there limited testing during the pandemic?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:51 amThink you are missing the point . There was limited testing during the pandemic . Would you have sat in a cab with a stranger . They were not testing . Same with driving tests . There is a backlogApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:00 am
Who's job was it to put HGV testing facilities in place?
It shows they didnt have a clue How many People were being made Homeless pre pandemic .George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:47 amDoes it not say that homelessness is rising but below pre pandemic levels. That does not appear to indicate that it was/is the pandemic that was the major cause.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:49 pm Indeed Frankfurter is Fully Correct on this point .
If the goverment had supported the thousands who are being evicted up &
down the country during the pandemic there would be an 80% + fall in evictions now.
The Story Party claims homelessness is not rising as this article clearly states .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standa ... html%3famp
But also Homeless deaths have Risen under this
Sorry f*cking excuse of a Government .
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... tudy-finds
The case in question was unfortunate . Enough help financially has been given during the pandemic . Probably more could have been done to help people in his situation .
Perhaps you should mention the good measures that were introduced that helped millions of people survive the pandemic that otherwise would not have done rather than concentrating on this individual.
The fact is that , as usual , plenty of people would have used the pandemic as as excuse not to pay rent. Difficult to separate the honest who are really in need of help , and the cheating scum who rinse the system
Johnson 3-03-19Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:13 amThat’s cool I don’t believe in personal responsibility eitherRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:36 pmYes, they can be blamed.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:21 pm FFS getting back to the original argument now - don't want to go all still wrong
The govt can't be blamed for making families homeless if a private landlord chooses to legally evict a tenant
Screaming scummy and nasty party doesn't fix things for these ppl, but then I've never associated the left with wanting to solve problems
This family have been evicted because the Government did not support them during the pandemic. It’s as simple as that.
Have you forgotten lockdown. They were not working I’m the numbers requiredApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:11 pmI'll ask again...why was there limited testing during the pandemic?George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:51 amThink you are missing the point . There was limited testing during the pandemic . Would you have sat in a cab with a stranger . They were not testing . Same with driving tests . There is a backlogApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:00 am
Who's job was it to put HGV testing facilities in place?
No , but you said it was during the pandemic. I just read your link where it said it was worst pre pandemictuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:46 pmIt shows they didnt have a clue How many People were being made Homeless pre pandemic .George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:47 amDoes it not say that homelessness is rising but below pre pandemic levels. That does not appear to indicate that it was/is the pandemic that was the major cause.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:49 pm Indeed Frankfurter is Fully Correct on this point .
If the goverment had supported the thousands who are being evicted up &
down the country during the pandemic there would be an 80% + fall in evictions now.
The Story Party claims homelessness is not rising as this article clearly states .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standa ... html%3famp
But also Homeless deaths have Risen under this
Sorry f*cking excuse of a Government .
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... tudy-finds
The case in question was unfortunate . Enough help financially has been given during the pandemic . Probably more could have been done to help people in his situation .
Perhaps you should mention the good measures that were introduced that helped millions of people survive the pandemic that otherwise would not have done rather than concentrating on this individual.
The fact is that , as usual , plenty of people would have used the pandemic as as excuse not to pay rent. Difficult to separate the honest who are really in need of help , and the cheating scum who rinse the system
How does a Government not know or care about evictions ?
Johnson said recently there was no problem yet agencies dealing with the problem it
had gathered information from charities dealing with the problem clearly show there are .
£29 Billion on failed track & trace certainly helped someone during the pamdemic
as did The Share bought by Hancocks Sister .
If it wasnt for Rashford , kids would have gone Hungry
Etc Etc etc
Are those the measures you wanted me to mention ?
No amount of measures would have made a difference. You were quoting Australia as a shining light. Now look at them. Still locked down. No immunity. No exit strategy. Is all they have done is delayed the inevitable.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:43 pmJohnson 3-03-19Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:13 amThat’s cool I don’t believe in personal responsibility eitherRonnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:36 pm
Yes, they can be blamed.
This family have been evicted because the Government did not support them during the pandemic. It’s as simple as that.
go to work as normal 1000 deaths
johnson 10-03-19
go to work as normal 2000 deaths
Johnson 17-03-2019
Errr dont go to work as normal 10000 deaths & rising .
we are still waiting for personal Responsibility from 10 Downing Street
I know what happened, but you appear to have forgotten.George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:13 pmHave you forgotten lockdown. They were not working I’m the numbers requiredApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:11 pmI'll ask again...why was there limited testing during the pandemic?
Work from home , social distance, only mix with immediate family , furlough. Speak to an instructor. Everyone knows one .Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:27 pmI know what happened, but you appear to have forgotten.George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:13 pmHave you forgotten lockdown. They were not working I’m the numbers requiredApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:11 pm
I'll ask again...why was there limited testing during the pandemic?
Almost sound like an apologist for this baffling, historically bad government. But surely not.
And we were not discussing a historically bad Government. We were talking , in the main , about driver shortages. I expect I would agree on many of the historically bad Government decisions. Just as you may with a historically bad Labour Government. In Labours case , it would have to be historicalApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:27 pmI know what happened, but you appear to have forgotten.George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:13 pmHave you forgotten lockdown. They were not working I’m the numbers requiredApple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:11 pm
I'll ask again...why was there limited testing during the pandemic?
Almost sound like an apologist for this baffling, historically bad government. But surely not.
Well Evictions were all but banned during the pandemic .George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:15 pmNo , but you said it was during the pandemic. I just read your link where it said it was worst pre pandemictuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:46 pmIt shows they didnt have a clue How many People were being made Homeless pre pandemic .George wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:47 am
Does it not say that homelessness is rising but below pre pandemic levels. That does not appear to indicate that it was/is the pandemic that was the major cause.
The case in question was unfortunate . Enough help financially has been given during the pandemic . Probably more could have been done to help people in his situation .
Perhaps you should mention the good measures that were introduced that helped millions of people survive the pandemic that otherwise would not have done rather than concentrating on this individual.
The fact is that , as usual , plenty of people would have used the pandemic as as excuse not to pay rent. Difficult to separate the honest who are really in need of help , and the cheating scum who rinse the system
How does a Government not know or care about evictions ?
Johnson said recently there was no problem yet agencies dealing with the problem it
had gathered information from charities dealing with the problem clearly show there are .
£29 Billion on failed track & trace certainly helped someone during the pamdemic
as did The Share bought by Hancocks Sister .
If it wasnt for Rashford , kids would have gone Hungry
Etc Etc etc
Are those the measures you wanted me to mention ?