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Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:09 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:02 am Hes let money overrule his head which has allowed a spy to have a hold over him. Ok we should just say no worries carry on.

He needs to resign simple as.

Do you think she walked into his office and said “Hello, I’m a Chinese spy and would like to buy some influence?”

Having said that, Gapes is a bit of a tw*t anyway.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:12 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:39 am So the jellyfish has been caught drinking beer among others whilst we were under lockdown. The man is a first class hypocrite. I also note that the boarders on here have chosen to ignore this hypocrite and actions. Very sad times.

Starmer needs to resign over this issue, the odious toad.

Who is jellyfish? Link?

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:19 am**

You know who the jellyfish is. The leader of her majesties opposition

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:21 am**

It throws up the whole issue of how our democracy can be paid for by private and foreign interests. Whether it's the Chinese trying to buy political influence through, erm, Barry Gardner (

), or the Russians and Saudis doing the same with Tory MPs. And the same with corporate donations. Money compromises.

I'm also uncomfortable with how much land and property is owned by foreign interests. Often by corporate entities hiding behind nominee directorships on offshore tax havens. That gives them power and control over us while remaining out of reach of our institutions.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:22 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:19 am You know who the jellyfish is. The leader of her majesties opposition

I reckon the jellyfish is harder than you.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:25 am**

Sir Beer Starmer

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17329329/ ... -lockdown/

It's ok though, it's been explained that is was work and not a party, though some are saying rules are rules...

I'm starting to wonder, though, if Westminster has a drink problem.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:25 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:19 am You know who the jellyfish is. The leader of her majesties opposition

Link to this story please

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:39 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:21 am It throws up the whole issue of how our democracy can be paid for by private and foreign interests. Whether it's the Chinese trying to buy political influence through, erm, Barry Gardner ( ), or the Russians and Saudis doing the same with Tory MPs. And the same with corporate donations. Money compromises.

I'm also uncomfortable with how much land and property is owned by foreign interests. Often by corporate entities hiding behind nominee directorships on offshore tax havens. That gives them power and control over us while remaining out of reach of our institutions.

As a country we've kind of told the world how to behave in a democratic country and the more I see and hear the more I see us slipping in to corrupt system/country. Its not what I want to see.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:40 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:22 am
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:19 am You know who the jellyfish is. The leader of her majesties opposition
I reckon the jellyfish is harder than you.

Absolutely no chance in hell of that being true. I'd even let him have the first punch for free.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:53 pm**

Personally I think Labour need go win Scotland back to stand a chance of being in government.
England is more Conservative and the SNP are doing a good job of keeping the Conservatives in power thus ensuring no independence for Scotland.
Labour can not do any deals with the SNP because it would strengthen the SNP and ironically the only way the SNP can stop the conservatives is to lose.
But everyones self serving nature probits this and labour can not afford an independent scotland so that is why I think they need to win scotland 1st.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:58 pm**

No chance of that sveno, more chance of the tories eroding the snp than Labour!

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:59 pm**

See how they lefties are all quite about Gardner and Srarmer. Funny that....

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:04 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:58 pm No chance of that sveno, more chance of the tories eroding the snp than Labour!

The conservatives will continue in power and the PM can do what they like.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:49 pm**

Why didn't Labour have a lockdown Christmas party?

Because they had nothing to celebrate.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:12 pm**

SvenO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:49 pm Why didn't Labour have a lockdown Christmas party?

Because they had nothing to celebrate.

Did the hypocrites bring their own booze ?

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:14 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:21 am It throws up the whole issue of how our democracy can be paid for by private and foreign interests. Whether it's the Chinese trying to buy political influence through, erm, Barry Gardner ( ), or the Russians and Saudis doing the same with Tory MPs. And the same with corporate donations. Money compromises.

I'm also uncomfortable with how much land and property is owned by foreign interests. Often by corporate entities hiding behind nominee directorships on offshore tax havens. That gives them power and control over us while remaining out of reach of our institutions.

All of that.

Although you very sensibly left out a few other states and only named the Russians and Saudis.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:20 pm**

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:21 am It throws up the whole issue of how our democracy can be paid for by private and foreign interests. Whether it's the Chinese trying to buy political influence through, erm, Barry Gardner ( ), or the Russians and Saudis doing the same with Tory MPs. And the same with corporate donations. Money compromises.

I'm also uncomfortable with how much land and property is owned by foreign interests. Often by corporate entities hiding behind nominee directorships on offshore tax havens. That gives them power and control over us while remaining out of reach of our institutions

f*** 'em. What are they going to do ? Take the land and buildings away with them? If our Government has any stones at all they'd just seize it all for the common good.

Or - simply introduce punitive land / property taxes on all assets NOT owned by onshore, tax-paying entities with full transparency. Say, 10% of value p.a. Failure to pay means the asset is forfeit to the state.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:33 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:12 pm
SvenO wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:49 pm Why didn't Labour have a lockdown Christmas party?

Because they had nothing to celebrate.
Did the hypocrites bring their own booze ?

I imagine it was some booze was suplied but maybe they brought a bottle of wine then drank the whiskey or beer.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:56 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:59 pm See how they lefties are all quite about Gardner and Srarmer. Funny that....

You still haven't bothered to post a link to the story about Starmer. Fake news?

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:58 pm**

StillSpike wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:20 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:21 am It throws up the whole issue of how our democracy can be paid for by private and foreign interests. Whether it's the Chinese trying to buy political influence through, erm, Barry Gardner ( ), or the Russians and Saudis doing the same with Tory MPs. And the same with corporate donations. Money compromises.

I'm also uncomfortable with how much land and property is owned by foreign interests. Often by corporate entities hiding behind nominee directorships on offshore tax havens. That gives them power and control over us while remaining out of reach of our institutions
f*** 'em. What are they going to do ? Take the land and buildings away with them? If our Government has any stones at all they'd just seize it all for the common good.

Or - simply introduce punitive land / property taxes on all assets NOT owned by onshore, tax-paying entities with full transparency. Say, 10% of value p.a. Failure to pay means the asset is forfeit to the state.

Well, quite. But while they cannot take the physical assets away, they can exert considerable control and influence over commercial and residential tenancies, because current company law and landlord and tenant law does not provide any additional layers of protection.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:57 am**

Is today the day that starmer the jellyfish will refer himself for investigation over his rule breaking drinks during lockdown when NO ONE was allowed to socialise indoors. Will he follow the example of the PM or will he continue to show zero backbone over anything?

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:28 am**

I see an enquiry is being held in to Barry gardener and his activities. This should be interesting.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:16 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:57 am Is today the day that starmer the jellyfish will refer himself for investigation over his rule breaking drinks during lockdown when NO ONE was allowed to socialise indoors. Will he follow the example of the PM or will he continue to show zero backbone over anything?

So Johnson reported himself did he....I dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:20 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:57 am Is today the day that starmer the jellyfish will refer himself for investigation over his rule breaking drinks during lockdown when NO ONE was allowed to socialise indoors. Will he follow the example of the PM or will he continue to show zero backbone over anything?

Post a link or its a ban for misinformation.

Posted: **Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:54 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:20 am
Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:57 am Is today the day that starmer the jellyfish will refer himself for investigation over his rule breaking drinks during lockdown when NO ONE was allowed to socialise indoors. Will he follow the example of the PM or will he continue to show zero backbone over anything?
Post a link or its a ban for misinformation.

It's a complete false equivalence but https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... armer.html

Obviously not remotely comparable to the stuff coming out from government.

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