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Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:45 pm
by tuffers#1
Still's Carenae wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:26 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:41 pm
Mick McQuaid wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:35 pm Tuffers, it depends how and what you're counting, the point, i think also made by Bill Bryson, is it's largely meaningless.

Of course it shares lots in common with other vituses and for a variety of reasons warm weather will help but saying it's 90% identical to SARS like there is an obvious conclusion to draw from it is nonsense.

I don't claim any great knowledge, but knowing the difference between DNA and RNA was GCSE in my day.
I never claimed it was identical to sars .


As for bryson & dna virtually everything on the planet consists of x % carbon then the rest is made up of
Half a dozen basic ingredients.


There was a great interview with some guy from some scientific research lab
on the news the other day discussing viruses , he said basically every living
thing is a biology box creating there own viruses, which 99. 8 % were non lethal , in fact they helped the creation & continuation of life in the most part.

Occasionally a virus filters through that can not be dealt with by a different species &
thats how things like corona virus happen .

A Fascinating world of possibility .

Meaningless indeed, until you catch something that might kill ya .
I don't understand why flu (a virus from animals) is not classed as a pandemic (maybe because they don't name it after a beer). Average Uk deaths 17000, 3% chance of dying. So around 1% of the population 500,000+ catch this every year.

So Corona is insignificant currently. But why are governments so scarred?
Probably because of going to see there Dominatrix's !
Dirty upper class preverts .

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:51 pm
by Long slender neck
Still's Carenae wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:26 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:41 pm
Mick McQuaid wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:35 pm Tuffers, it depends how and what you're counting, the point, i think also made by Bill Bryson, is it's largely meaningless.

Of course it shares lots in common with other vituses and for a variety of reasons warm weather will help but saying it's 90% identical to SARS like there is an obvious conclusion to draw from it is nonsense.

I don't claim any great knowledge, but knowing the difference between DNA and RNA was GCSE in my day.
I never claimed it was identical to sars .


As for bryson & dna virtually everything on the planet consists of x % carbon then the rest is made up of
Half a dozen basic ingredients.


There was a great interview with some guy from some scientific research lab
on the news the other day discussing viruses , he said basically every living
thing is a biology box creating there own viruses, which 99. 8 % were non lethal , in fact they helped the creation & continuation of life in the most part.

Occasionally a virus filters through that can not be dealt with by a different species &
thats how things like corona virus happen .

A Fascinating world of possibility .

Meaningless indeed, until you catch something that might kill ya .
I don't understand why flu (a virus from animals) is not classed as a pandemic (maybe because they don't name it after a beer). Average Uk deaths 17000, 3% chance of dying. So around 1% of the population 500,000+ catch this every year.

So Corona is insignificant currently. But why are governments so scarred?
I reckon your figures are wrong. How likely is it that you are right about this and the experts are wrong?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:53 pm
by A Pedant
Still's Carenae wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:26 pm I don't understand why flu (a virus from animals) is not classed as a pandemic (maybe because they don't name it after a beer). Average Uk deaths 17000, 3% chance of dying. So around 1% of the population 500,000+ catch this every year.

So Corona is insignificant currently. But why are governments so scarred?
A pandemic is the worldwide spread of a disease, so by definition flu is not a pandemic unless its a new strain that is spreading rapidly all over the world (as swine flu did, for example).

The major difference is that flu generally isn't an epidemic all over the world at the same time (again, excepting swine flu and the like). The flu season covers a number of months each year, which means that the very large number of cases are spread out over a long period of time. Also, flu is less infectious, whereas COVID-19 is spreading rapidly all over the world at the same time - hence why a relatively advanced health system like Italy's can be overwhelmed in a matter of a couple of weeks.

It's the potential to rapidly spread to millions all over the world at the same time that's the issue, hence the need to slow down the transmission (it can't be contained now).

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:25 pm
by greyhound
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/disease-dodgi ... 36940.html

anyone on this forum wealthy enough to jet away.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:32 pm
by Max B Gold
greyhound wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:25 pm https://uk.yahoo.com/news/disease-dodgi ... 36940.html

anyone on this forum wealthy enough to jet away.
No but i am going to Carlisle next week if thats any use.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:53 pm
by Dunners
Rumors have it that the first major European airline bankruptcy is imminent.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:54 pm
by Dunners
I'm not sure which one, BTW, but if I had to I'd say Norwegian or Alitalia.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:00 pm
by Max B Gold
Norwegian

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:14 pm
by Bergen
Norway is 'shutting down'. Schools, Universities, childcare centers. The lot.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:23 pm
by Lovejoy
Coronavirus news LIVE: Boris Johnson's Cobra meeting to set out next steps as UK cases soar to 590.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/c ... spartanntp

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:28 pm
by Bergen
City against Real Madrid has been postponed.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:50 pm
by Lovejoy
Coronavirus: Three Leicester players self-isolating after showing symptoms.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/premier ... spartanntp

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:44 pm
by Lovejoy
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:49 am We seem to be doing quite well compared to other european countries. Perhaps that is just the benefit of being an island.
Can't coronavirus swim then?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:47 pm
by tuffers#1
Big Chief Medical officer stating 8 out of 10 prefer Corona virus infection.

🔔🔚 🤪

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:49 pm
by Howling Mad Murdock
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:47 pm Big Chief Medical officer stating 8 out of 10 prefer Corona virus infection.
Eh?

Re: 🔔🔚 🤪

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:01 pm
by tuffers#1
Howling Mad Murdock wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:49 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:47 pm Big Chief Medical officer stating 8 out of 10 prefer Corona virus infection.
Eh?
Just reported in the.news conference
Planned Worst case scenario will be 80 %

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:06 pm
by spen666

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:20 pm
by BIGRON
My sister lives in Loughton and says her Doctors surgery is closed until further notice , telephone consulting only 🤔🤔

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:35 pm
by Fellowo
BIGRON wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:20 pm My sister lives in Loughton and says her Doctors surgery is closed until further notice , telephone consulting only 🤔🤔
Same for me, as you can imagine GP's are probably at high risk and are needed to help with this. Last thing they want are GP's to get it.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:54 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Sensible decision

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:04 pm
by Thor
I went in to a supermarket today, around lunchtime I guess, and the toilet roll isle was absolutely cleared out, not one roll was left. I saw people with them in their trolleys so it must have just happened before then. It was like locusts had gone through the isle, totally and utterly bare.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:06 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Having to make do with your copy of The Mail?

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:07 pm
by Lucky7
Thor wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:04 pm I went in to a supermarket today, around lunchtime I guess, and the toilet roll isle was absolutely cleared out, not one roll was left. I saw people with them in their trolleys so it must have just happened before then. It was like locusts had gone through the isle, totally and utterly bare.
We have food been shopping 3 times since this so called hysteria began

Tesco Leytonstone Aldi Lea Bridge Rd
Got everything we needed each time

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:24 pm
by Max B Gold
Thor wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:04 pm I went in to a supermarket today, around lunchtime I guess, and the toilet roll isle was absolutely cleared out, not one roll was left. I saw people with them in their trolleys so it must have just happened before then. It was like locusts had gone through the isle, totally and utterly bare.
Except of course locusts don't eat toilet paper and even if they did they would struggle to get the plastic packaging off. So probably nothing like how you have described it.

Lay off the Locusts mate.

Re: Coronavirus

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:27 pm
by tuffers#1