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Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:26 am This is what performing fellatio via a social media platform looks like.

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:04 am The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:

- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others

I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:04 am The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:

- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others

I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:03 am We can expect loads more of this codswallop. Meaningless soundbites and phrases uttered without any substance from a political class who still sleep under a pre-2008 comfort blanket.

I mean, what does "pro-climate" or "pro-women" even mean?

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:16 am

Wally Banter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:04 am The most depressing element here is how far we are away from a society in which most people (including myself in this) can:

- understand political issues (like the economy) at even a rudimentary level;
- recognise non-defensively the influences of power and oppression
- properly appraise information and its credibility (including media bias)
- explore their individual unconscious biases and insecurities, and how these might affect their decisions
- listen to opposing views with openness and empathy, rather than blaming, attacking and judging which only widens the divide with others

I wish these things would be prioritised in education, so that we might end up with future generations of astute, politically engaged, reasonable people.

Agreed this is the state of things but it’s not by chance.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:20 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:03 am We can expect loads more of this codswallop. Meaningless soundbites and phrases uttered without any substance from a political class who still sleep under a pre-2008 comfort blanket.

I mean, what does "pro-climate" or "pro-women" even mean?

‘Pro’ means for. It comes from the Latin word ‘pro’, which means ‘for’.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:26 am This is what performing fellatio via a social media platform looks like.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:25 am

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:20 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:03 am We can expect loads more of this codswallop. Meaningless soundbites and phrases uttered without any substance from a political class who still sleep under a pre-2008 comfort blanket.

I mean, what does "pro-climate" or "pro-women" even mean?

‘Pro’ means for. It comes from the Latin word ‘pro’, which means ‘for’.

So, who is against a climate? That suggests there are people who think a climate is a bad idea.

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:15 am UK really pissing in the wind now, USA free trade deal was the big 'prize' of Brexit. Instead we're going to get hammered by trade tariffs without an economic bloc to attach ourselves to as the world gets a lot more protectionist.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:25 am

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:20 am

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:03 am We can expect loads more of this codswallop. Meaningless soundbites and phrases uttered without any substance from a political class who still sleep under a pre-2008 comfort blanket.

I mean, what does "pro-climate" or "pro-women" even mean?

‘Pro’ means for. It comes from the Latin word ‘pro’, which means ‘for’.

So, who is against a climate? That suggests there are people who think a climate is a bad idea.

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:39 am Has she actually managed to perform worse than Biden did in the last election in every county?

faldO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:43 am Well done to Trump and the Republicans, who won well. A victory for fascists, Nazis and garbage everywhere.

Hard not to feel sympathy for the Democrat leadership and liberal elite who chose probably the only person who could have lost to Trump. They put identity politics above competence and have paid the price.