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Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:49 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:37 pm
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:18 am How the hell has Starmer managed to catch Covid twice in three months?

Apparently this is now his sixth self-isolation period. It means that Labour are sending in Rayner to bat in today's PMQs.
Nick Ferrari said it was his third case of covid. He must be the unluckiest man alive, triple jabbed as well.

Guess natural immunity from being infected is bollocks then and people should get vaccinated instead eh?

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:02 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:10 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:55 pm

Not enough to put Bodge in jail unfortunately !
Lord Ahmed may not be so lucky.
righty so . Bodge might have tried to change the rules if he had been a TORT. Owen patterson anyone ?

Not quite the same really is it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:55 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:02 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:10 pm

Lord Ahmed may not be so lucky.
righty so . Bodge might have tried to change the rules if he had been a TORT. Owen patterson anyone ?
Not quite the same really is it.

of course its not doh, Labour accept punishments Bodge Sc#m tries to break & change rules. glad you are starting to see the Truth at last.

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:05 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:55 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:02 pm

righty so . Bodge might have tried to change the rules if he had been a TORT. Owen patterson anyone ?
Not quite the same really is it.
of course its not doh, Labour accept punishments Bodge Sc#m tries to break & change rules. glad you are starting to see the Truth at last.

Court of law. Thems the rules. No choice but to accept or appeal. Naff all to do with Labour accepting as you know.

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:27 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:05 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:55 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 pm

Not quite the same really is it.
of course its not doh, Labour accept punishments Bodge Sc#m tries to break & change rules. glad you are starting to see the Truth at last.
Court of law. Thems the rules. No choice but to accept or appeal. Naff all to do with Labour accepting as you know.

youve agreed with me again Doh, its about Bodge not following rules & trying to change them . Is Da'Rius free yet ?

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:51 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:27 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:05 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:55 pm

of course its not doh, Labour accept punishments Bodge Sc#m tries to break & change rules. glad you are starting to see the Truth at last.
Court of law. Thems the rules. No choice but to accept or appeal. Naff all to do with Labour accepting as you know.
youve agreed with me again Doh, its about Bodge not following rules & trying to change them . Is Da'Rius free yet ?

Labour forum. Labour peer convicted. Won’t get any mileage will it, just diversions.

Posted: **Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:12 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:51 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:27 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:05 pm

Court of law. Thems the rules. No choice but to accept or appeal. Naff all to do with Labour accepting as you know.
youve agreed with me again Doh, its about Bodge not following rules & trying to change them . Is Da'Rius free yet ?
Labour forum. Labour peer convicted. Won’t get any mileage will it, just diversions.

well we rarely see you in T*ry watch so we have to bring light to the cowardice of others where we can . Keep the Red flag flying high so to speak

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:54 am**

The petition against TB's extra special Honour bestowed upon him by the Queen has now got over a million signatures.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 37ae990f41

But Starmer thinks that Tony B. is a very successful leader and deserves the award (but Johnson does not).

Starmer's leadership is supported by Tony B. and he has hired B's former major advisers to help him get into the top job.
A wise move or is Starmer getting himself tarnished by 'backing the wrong horse'?

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:51 am**

Blair needs to judged on his whole time as PM and not on one controversial issue where many think he screwed up. Largely with the benefit of hindsight and even then the situation is not as clear as some suggest.

On that basis Blair in my opinion did a very good job. A job that was, at the time, considered good as the elections showed. Probably in the top 2 in our recent history.

Wish he was leading Labour now. It would be him and not Boris as PM.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:57 am**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:51 am Blair needs to judged on his whole time as PM and not on one controversial issue where many think he screwed up. Largely with the benefit of hindsight and even then the situation is not as clear as some suggest.

On that basis Blair in my opinion did a very good job. A job that was, at the time, considered good as the elections showed. Probably in the top 2 in our recent history.

Wish he was leading Labour now. It would be him and not Boris as PM.

Imagine coming to the defence of that war criminal Blair. Just imagine that.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:19 am**

After his stint as PM, Blair made millions 'advising' some of the worst tyrants in the world, with truly awful human rights records

Blair is a wrongun of the highest order

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:39 am**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:57 am
Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:51 am Blair needs to judged on his whole time as PM and not on one controversial issue where many think he screwed up. Largely with the benefit of hindsight and even then the situation is not as clear as some suggest.

On that basis Blair in my opinion did a very good job. A job that was, at the time, considered good as the elections showed. Probably in the top 2 in our recent history.

Wish he was leading Labour now. It would be him and not Boris as PM.
Imagine coming to the defence of that war criminal Blair. Just imagine that.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Try to imagine other people having different opinions.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:43 am**

Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:19 am After his stint as PM, Blair made millions 'advising' some of the worst tyrants in the world, with truly awful human rights records

Blair is a wrongun of the highest order

And there me thinking his Government was responsible for getting the human rights act enshrined in law in the U.K. part of a manifesto pledge in 87.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:03 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:39 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:57 am
Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:51 am Blair needs to judged on his whole time as PM and not on one controversial issue where many think he screwed up. Largely with the benefit of hindsight and even then the situation is not as clear as some suggest.

On that basis Blair in my opinion did a very good job. A job that was, at the time, considered good as the elections showed. Probably in the top 2 in our recent history.

Wish he was leading Labour now. It would be him and not Boris as PM.
Imagine coming to the defence of that war criminal Blair. Just imagine that.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion. Try to imagine other people having different opinions.

Dohnut you are so out of touch with life it’s proper scary.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:47 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:43 am
And there me thinking his Government was responsible for getting the human rights act enshrined in law in the U.K. part of a manifesto pledge in 87.

Blair wasn’t PM in 87, it was some other right wing c*nt.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:50 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:43 am
Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:19 am After his stint as PM, Blair made millions 'advising' some of the worst tyrants in the world, with truly awful human rights records

Blair is a wrongun of the highest order
And there me thinking his Government was responsible for getting the human rights act enshrined in law in the U.K. part of a manifesto pledge in 87.

Havent the T#ry sc*m just got rid of that ?

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:59 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:43 am
Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:19 am After his stint as PM, Blair made millions 'advising' some of the worst tyrants in the world, with truly awful human rights records

Blair is a wrongun of the highest order
And there me thinking his Government was responsible for getting the human rights act enshrined in law in the U.K. part of a manifesto pledge in 87.

When the mega bucks was available to him, he took whatever was offered.
Its a fact Blair was advisor to Uzbekistan, and Saudi, and others , with truly abysmal human rights records

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:11 pm**

Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:59 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:43 am
Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:19 am After his stint as PM, Blair made millions 'advising' some of the worst tyrants in the world, with truly awful human rights records

Blair is a wrongun of the highest order
And there me thinking his Government was responsible for getting the human rights act enshrined in law in the U.K. part of a manifesto pledge in 87.
When the mega bucks was available to him, he took whatever was offered.
Its a fact Blair was advisor to Uzbekistan, and Saudi, and others , with truly abysmal human rights records

T*ry Sc*m dont deal with them ?

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:13 pm**

Perhaps they needed some advice then?

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:36 pm**

In politics sometimes you have to deal with people whose values differ from yours in order to make progress. Politicians of all colours do this. Don’t mean you agree with them. Can mean you are trying to understand them and maybe change their views.

Routine.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:42 pm**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:47 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:43 am
And there me thinking his Government was responsible for getting the human rights act enshrined in law in the U.K. part of a manifesto pledge in 87.
Sir Tony Blair wasn’t PM in 87, it was some other right wing c*nt.

Apologies, the memory isn’t quite what is was. Googled it and it was 97 of course. It was TB and it was him who introduced it having put it into the Labour manifesto.

So the point stands. And thanks for allowing me the opportunity to say it again.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:01 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:36 pm In politics sometimes you have to deal with people whose values differ from yours in order to make progress. Politicians of all colours do this. Don’t mean you agree with them. Can mean you are trying to understand them and maybe change their views.

Routine.

Pretty sure you called Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser at some point

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:15 pm**

StillSpike wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:01 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:36 pm In politics sometimes you have to deal with people whose values differ from yours in order to make progress. Politicians of all colours do this. Don’t mean you agree with them. Can mean you are trying to understand them and maybe change their views.

Routine.
Pretty sure you called Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser at some point

If he did, I couldn’t find it. Just done a quick search and although there were 150 mentions of the term ‘Corbyn’ in his 2,000 posts, a ridiculous %age, none of them refer to terrorist sympathies.

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:20 pm**

Then I will happily withdraw the suggestion

Posted: **Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:30 pm**

Despite all the evidence and Chilcot's powerful conclusion, 'Blair' still maintains he did the right thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ar-inquiry

Dangerous arrogance or lack of conscience?

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