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Re: Coronavirus

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PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:57 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:30 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:26 pm Or the more likely demographic to be in jobs that you cannot do from home?
I'm afraid you're gonna have to back that up with a graph bro
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Spelt Caesar wrong.
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Just goes to show how unreliable these graphs are.
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Re: Coronavirus

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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:14 pm Spelt Caesar wrong.
Listen mate Dr Karol Sikora posted this graph on twitter and he is an EXPERT! In something.
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Re: Coronavirus

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PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:57 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:30 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:26 pm Or the more likely demographic to be in jobs that you cannot do from home?
I'm afraid you're gonna have to back that up with a graph bro
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To think he was so good on Armstrong & Miller

Just cant find the writers these days
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PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:30 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:14 pm Spelt Caesar wrong.
Listen mate Dr Karol Sikora posted this graph on twitter and he is an EXPERT! In something.
Is Sikora, Karl the right wing cancer specialist from that made up University who is the go to guy for the BBC broadcasters when they need an "expert" on Epidemiology and The Covids?
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If you don't think Covid's that bad and we should just get on with it already, you've definitely retweeted The Good Doctor. More false predictions than Russell Grant.
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PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:44 pm If you don't think Covid's that bad and we should just get on with it already, you've definitely retweeted The Good Doctor. More false predictions than Russell Grant.
Are we talking about the Dr Karl Sikora who lies about his qualifications?
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Yeah that one. But he's just trying to be positive!
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BoniO wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:31 pm
Disoriented wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:14 pm Why is anyone surprised with this hike? The way so many idiots behaved over summer pretending there were no issues made this inevitable.
Dido Harding said nobody could have foreseen this........ says it all really doesn't it.
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PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:57 pm
Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:30 pm
PoliticOs wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:26 pm Or the more likely demographic to be in jobs that you cannot do from home?
I'm afraid you're gonna have to back that up with a graph bro
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PoliticOs wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:54 am Yeah that one. But he's just trying to be positive!
Is he not a real cancer doctor then, and just a fraud? Genuine question, as the only non-government medical/science bod I feel is trustworthy is Dr John Campbell on the YouTubes.
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Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:51 am
PoliticOs wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:54 am Yeah that one. But he's just trying to be positive!
Is he not a real cancer doctor then, and just a fraud? Genuine question, as the only non-government medical/science bod I feel is trustworthy is Dr John Campbell on the YouTubes.
He is, it's the framing of himself as the go-to guy on Coronavirus that grinds though

He's certainly put together a decent grift by posting good news stories that get shared. Because your average Richard doesn't know what Oncology or Epidemiology are they just think "Oh science man say things good"
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thanks.

I sort of nodded sagely at his comments that government messaging and restrictions had resulted in a certain percentage drop in cancer diagnosis. And that there's a risk of a cure being worse than the disease. But I figured that such things would be considered by SAGE/government when they made decisions.
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So Mr Vallance has shares in the vaccine company GSK. Wake up sheep! [/Thor]
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:56 am So Mr Vallance has shares in the vaccine company GSK. Wake up sheep! [/Thor]
And the vaccine has been held up so Orient get thrown out of the League Cup
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So, we now have Dishy Rishi's winter economy plan. Any thoughts? I did wonder at the hidden depth behind his comment that the UK was "likely to undergo a more permanent economic adjustment."

Instead of the current furlough scheme, affected workers may have to accept 77% of their salary, but only work a third of their usual time for six months. But, if I've understood it right, that will require their employer and government to cover the difference between a third and the 77%

The business loans changes make sense, as otherwise there's a risk that they'll never get repaid.

But I'm not sure how much any of this, including the VAT cuts will help the hospitality sector. I can see things getting brutal after the New Year.
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Re: Coronavirus

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Martin Lewis explains the job retention offer pretty clearly:

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Dunners wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:48 pm So, we now have Dishy Rishi's winter economy plan. Any thoughts? I did wonder at the hidden depth behind his comment that the UK was "likely to undergo a more permanent economic adjustment."

Instead of the current furlough scheme, affected workers may have to accept 77% of their salary, but only work a third of their usual time for six months. But, if I've understood it right, that will require their employer and government to cover the difference between a third and the 77%

The business loans changes make sense, as otherwise there's a risk that they'll never get repaid.

But I'm not sure how much any of this, including the VAT cuts will help the hospitality sector. I can see things getting brutal after the New Year.
Yep - potentially employers paying 56% of an employees salary for 33% of their usual hours. This will defer some (most?) of the pain from pre Xmas until the new year, I agree.

More importantly, why do people call him dishy rishy? He always reminds me of plug from the bash street kids.
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Re: Coronavirus

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Unfortunately I can see plenty of employers opting for redundancies instead. f*** this us going to be awful.
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I dont understand the new scheme at all. They'll pay a small amount of somebodys wage, but only if they drastically reduce their hours?
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:04 pm I dont understand the new scheme at all. They'll pay a small amount of somebodys wage, but only if they drastically reduce their hours?
The employer pays for whatever hours are worked but has to be at least 1/3 of normal.

Whatever isn't paid is shared 3 ways - the employer, the Govt and the employee.

If an employee works 50% hours, he'll be paid 83% of his usual money - 67% by the employer and 17% by Govt, suffering 17% loss himself (Apologies to Spen for rounding).
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RedO wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:16 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:04 pm I dont understand the new scheme at all. They'll pay a small amount of somebodys wage, but only if they drastically reduce their hours?
The employer pays for whatever hours are worked but has to be at least 1/3 of normal.

Whatever isn't paid is shared 3 ways - the employer, the Govt and the employee.

If an employee works 50% hours, he'll be paid 83% of his usual money - 67% by the employer and 17% by Govt, suffering 17% loss himself (Apologies to Spen for rounding).
Thanks for this but why is there this supposition that people will need to be working reduced hours?
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Imagine of you're living in a place with a a low cost of living and you're on £2.5k take home and have been on furlough since March

This must've been your best every year
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Re: Coronavirus

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Some self employed guys have been legitimately raking it in as well.

The whole thing has been a huge clusterfuck.
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