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Relentless.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:56 am Down to third spot and losing 12 points.
Great to see Sirkier is making Labour electable again.
https://labourlist.org/2021/12/labour-p ... -election/
This result is a disaster. He has to go.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:56 am Down to third spot and losing 12 points.
Great to see Sirkier is making Labour electable again.
https://labourlist.org/2021/12/labour-p ... -election/
Don't discount the Rayner effect.
You do Kieth a disservice. He was even smarter than that.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:25 pm Keir is smart and knew Libs stood the best chance so sent the joke politicians to remind the voters of Corbyn and boost the most likely candidate to beat the Tories
Masterstroke
Agreed. Anti-Zionism is totally different to Anti-Semitism. The Israeli's have been trying to prove the 2 are the same for some years now. Bonkers that the Labour Party should be so weak/stupid to follow any definition of anti-semitism that justifies the State of Israel.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:09 pm Finally someone standing up for the huge difference between anti semtisim and anti Zionism. A few boarders should read this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ti-zionism
It’s like they crowbarred it in to get rid of one of their leaders.BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:47 pmAgreed. Anti-Zionism is totally different to Anti-Semitism. The Israeli's have been trying to prove the 2 are the same for some years now. Bonkers that the Labour Party should be so weak/stupid to follow any definition of anti-semitism that justifies the State of Israel.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:09 pm Finally someone standing up for the huge difference between anti semtisim and anti Zionism. A few boarders should read this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ti-zionism
I’ve just had this story pop up.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:43 pm Guess they'll have to flog another masterpiece to pay for juniors tweeting
It's a perverse decision by the court.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:01 amI’ve just had this story pop up.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 4:43 pm Guess they'll have to flog another masterpiece to pay for juniors tweeting
I’m struggling to see what Riley’s issue is here?
I don't have a team on this one. Anyone who has read "Law tor Beginners" and "The Idiots Guide to the Law" can see how ridiculous this particular decision is and how the libel laws are just a means for oppression by the rich.
Yes that's why no judges decision has ever been over turned on appeal.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:31 am Impartial eh, uh huh
Think the judge has more experience to make that call
But my point wasn't that. As Renfrewshires leading minicab driver I don't claim to have mote experience or know more about English Law than the judge.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:28 am Just because some judges get it wrong doesn't negate the fact a High Court judge, probably, has more legal experience and standing than a minicab driver
Correct.Admin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:39 pm Can't say I have much sympathy with either party. Laura Murray's hardly without resources whilst Riley was represented pro-bono. Most of us are unlikely to ever have the funding to take a libel case the full distance and neither party here emerges with a lot of credit.
The level of damages awarded in terms of defamation are relatively small when considered against Riley's likely earnings and probably reflective of the "damage" to Riley's reputation. Like plenty on the far left side of things, Riley and her mate Tracy-Ann Oberman aren't exactly backwards in organising twitter pile on's when it suits their agendas and the judgement here doesn't in my opinion equate to her being vindicated in her campaign against antisemitism. Can't even see where AS has any relevance to this legal action.
Interesting point though in the summation on Riley's post being provocative and it also seems that had Murray included Riley's tweet, the result could have been different. Regardless, the whole case is pretty ridiculous and doesn't achieve anything for anyone.
Thanks but you'll forgive me for assuming the judge has got it right based on your respective CVs however.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:30 pmBut my point wasn't that. As Renfrewshires leading minicab driver I don't claim to have mote experience or know more about English Law than the judge.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:28 am Just because some judges get it wrong doesn't negate the fact a High Court judge, probably, has more legal experience and standing than a minicab driver
My point was more that his experience doesn't mean he automatically gets decisions right. He hasn't got this one right and has made a fundamental error in law and on appeal his decision will be overturned.
Fatal error. Never assume anything. It leads to lazy uncritical thinking. That much I learned from my accountancy days.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:48 pmThanks but you'll forgive me for assuming the judge has got it right based on your respective CVs however.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:30 pmBut my point wasn't that. As Renfrewshires leading minicab driver I don't claim to have mote experience or know more about English Law than the judge.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:28 am Just because some judges get it wrong doesn't negate the fact a High Court judge, probably, has more legal experience and standing than a minicab driver
My point was more that his experience doesn't mean he automatically gets decisions right. He hasn't got this one right and has made a fundamental error in law and on appeal his decision will be overturned.
If the matter was pertaining to the London Hackney Carriage Act 1853 I would, obviously, defer to you.