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Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:03 pm
by StillSpike
So why not charge for use of the toilets in the building? For using the front door? The corridors? the Air Conditioning or the heating? The beds? The operating theatres ? All of these things have to "paid for" according to your logic - someone has to pay, don't they?
Why pick on parking?
I'm surprised you've not thought this through, to be honest.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:41 pm
by Dohnut
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:03 pm
So why not charge for use of the toilets in the building? For using the front door? The corridors? the Air Conditioning or the heating? The beds? The operating theatres ? All of these things have to "paid for" according to your logic - someone has to pay, don't they?
Why pick on parking?
I'm surprised you've not thought this through, to be honest.
Why pick on parking. Because that was the point being raised. I’m keeping to the point.
There is a cost associated with running the car park. Of course there is. We all know that. That cost is not met from those using it through parking fees. So who picks up the tab? You tell me. Think about it.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:51 pm
by StillSpike
Well I guess I'd go back to the founding principles, and decide that the hospital, as a whole, is a service to the nation, and pay for it out of the common good. The whole hospital - the road going in, the parking, the front door, the toilets, corridors, wards, beds, nurses stations, staff rooms etc, is a service to the nation. So we continue to pay for it in the same way it was paid for when I was growing up - out of the taxation pot.
It's only in very recent times that it was decided there was a captive market to be soaked for excessive parking fees so that some private companies could make profits out of the process, while kicking back some of the income to the NHS.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:14 pm
by Dohnut
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:51 pm
Well I guess I'd go back to the founding principles, and decide that the hospital, as a whole, is a service to the nation, and pay for it out of the common good. The whole hospital - the road going in, the parking, the front door, the toilets, corridors, wards, beds, nurses stations, staff rooms etc, is a service to the nation. So we continue to pay for it in the same way it was paid for when I was growing up - out of the taxation pot.
It's only in very recent times that it was decided there was a captive market to be soaked for excessive parking fees so that some private companies could make profits out of the process, while kicking back some of the income to the NHS.
Out of the taxation pot is the right answer. Someone pays for it. If its not the users at the point of service it’s probably the tax payers. Removing the cost at point of entry shifts the costs to the tax payer, who subsidise those using the facility.
I’m not arguing about whether people who use the car park should pay or not. I have some sympathy with these facilities being subsidised, Nationalised even, free at point of use.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:37 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
The fees the sick and NHS staff have to pay are too much. Because as well as meeting the minimal maintenance costs, arseholes like this are also taking their cut.
Anyone defending the current system is sad.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5393137/h ... y-to-park/
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:37 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Ooft
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:58 am
by greyhound
that link is exactly what I am annoyed at.
ordinary folks are penalised for everything. MPS pay f..k all
for anything using there expense slate.
they don't even pay for bog rolls.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:03 am
by greyhound
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/snp-hit-tripl ... 24835.html
look at this dip stick I just forgot about the money I made.
think we should all stop voting f...k the lot of them.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:48 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Time to investigate that donkey sanctuary a bit more thoroughly.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:50 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Comparing a bloke running the line on Saturdays is hardly the same thing as a non-exec ‘consulting’ role with a gambling/pharma/house building etc plc.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:58 am
by slacker
I guess the recent sleaze and second jobbers stories have wound up enough Tory voters to lose them a few votes in favour of ‘no policies’ Starmer. The preceding and ongoing cronyism, lies & incompetence was ok though for their base
Time for Sir Kier to score another own goal by concentrating harder on lefty-bashing than the Blue team, then…
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:05 pm
by tuffers#1
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 56974.html
Labour has opened up a six-point lead over the Conservatives as a row over sleaze continues to damage the government, a poll has suggested.
Forty per cent of people would vote for Labour in an election today compared to just 34 per cent for the Tories, according to the latest Savanta ComRes data.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:07 pm
by tuffers#1
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:03 am
by Max B Gold
Go the new neoliberals slap it right intae the old neoliberals. Hurrah for Rubber faced Kieth.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:26 pm
by tuffers#1
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:03 am
Go the new neoliberals slap it right intae the old neoliberals. Hurrah for Rubber faced Kieth.
Max its an undercover plot
sirkeeF is just a patsy !
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:12 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Labour suspended member for saying only women experience the menopause
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:27 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Labour councillor expelled from The Party for speaking to socialists.
https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-lon ... r-22236947
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:39 pm
by StockholmO
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:06 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:19 pm
by StockholmO
Jewish voice for Labour is a sham organisation set up and run by Corbynists in order to muddy the waters as I’m sure you’re well aware of.
https://antisemitism.org/why-the-so-cal ... is-a-sham/
I don’t want to embarrass you any more.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:23 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:41 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thank you for clarifying.
Strange that Anti-Semitism.org were set up in October 2015. I wonder what happened in September 2015 to bring that about?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:49 pm
by StockholmO
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:41 pm
Thank you for clarifying.
Strange that Anti-Semitism.org were set up in October 2015. I wonder what happened in September 2015 to bring that about?
August 2014 actually. Long before Corbyn became leader.
Happy to clear up your confusion.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaig ... tisemitism
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:04 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
October 2015 actually. Just after Corbyn became leader, now you mention it. I hadn’t made the link myself until you mentioned it.
Happy to clear up your confusion.
https://register-of-charities.charityco ... g-document
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:09 pm
by StockholmO
‘I hadn’t made the link myself’
Relentless.
