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You seem pretty confidentApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:34 pm Will go up within a few weeks imo. The natural next step after the rise in infections, once the youngs have passed it onto the olds.
Can imagine getting up near 100 for a few days.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:50 pmYou seem pretty confidentApple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:34 pm Will go up within a few weeks imo. The natural next step after the rise in infections, once the youngs have passed it onto the olds.
What do you expect as daily deaths in a months time given we are in single figures now?
Decent explanation here, posted at 1640ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:49 pm How high do the figures go before we have another national lockdown?
It isn't just older people who get Covid-19. Many young people are getting it, it's just more of them recover.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:03 pm With cases and hospitalisations rising again it's gonna be a tough balance between shielding the olds and vulnerable while allowing others to continue
I just can't see older people accept a second targeted lockdown sadly
Thanks for advancing my point Dr ScienceComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:08 pmIt isn't just older people who get Covid-19. Many young people are getting it, it's just more of them recover.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:03 pm With cases and hospitalisations rising again it's gonna be a tough balance between shielding the olds and vulnerable while allowing others to continue
I just can't see older people accept a second targeted lockdown sadly
Fewer of them die as well.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:41 pmThanks for advancing my point Dr ScienceComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:08 pmIt isn't just older people who get Covid-19. Many young people are getting it, it's just more of them recover.Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:03 pm With cases and hospitalisations rising again it's gonna be a tough balance between shielding the olds and vulnerable while allowing others to continue
I just can't see older people accept a second targeted lockdown sadly
I had to get on the tube today and the vast, vast majority had a mask on (although not all properly).Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm Out and about today I lost count of the number of groups in excess of 6, and I'd estimate a slight majority not wearing masks in shops and public transport. The government has lost all authority so, even if they wanted to impose a lock down, I suspect quite a few people would defy them.
Have a look at tests per million population then let me know how many countries with a population above 10 million have conducted more tests/million. The answer is none. What a show up!tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:01 pm Watched a podcast recently where
1 of the hosts went to a party in L.A
The party host had a bunch of test kits available
Where the guests could wait outside for there results &
Once cleared could join the party .
Yet the Tory Party still cant organise enough for
Key workers !
Just showing up the country again
Yeah well done, they've only had since March to make sure the capacity for testing would NEVER be a problem , now they're telling us in September at the beginning of the 2nd wave that the wrong people are taking the tests up....Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:08 pmHave a look at tests per million population then let me know how many countries with a population above 10 million have conducted more tests/million. The answer is none. What a show up!tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:01 pm Watched a podcast recently where
1 of the hosts went to a party in L.A
The party host had a bunch of test kits available
Where the guests could wait outside for there results &
Once cleared could join the party .
Yet the Tory Party still cant organise enough for
Key workers !
Just showing up the country again
Of course we all know the history and the current situation. All countries have the same calendar, the same professional knowledge and no doubt the same issues, yet are nowhere near the levels of testing achieved in the UK. When measured by tests per million population. Having started behind the others we are now in front. So we have actually got somewhere. Further than others in fact. A recent BBC report acknowledged this too, surprisingly. So it’s not my observation but one reported by the Beeb.kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pmYeah well done, they've only had since March to make sure the capacity for testing would NEVER be a problem , now they're telling us in September at the beginning of the 2nd wave that the wrong people are taking the tests up....Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:08 pmHave a look at tests per million population then let me know how many countries with a population above 10 million have conducted more tests/million. The answer is none. What a show up!tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:01 pm Watched a podcast recently where
1 of the hosts went to a party in L.A
The party host had a bunch of test kits available
Where the guests could wait outside for there results &
Once cleared could join the party .
Yet the Tory Party still cant organise enough for
Key workers !
Just showing up the country again
Maybe if they allowed the profesional knowledgeable people to do the work rather than outsourcing the work to their corrupt and useless cronies/old pals we might have actually got somewhere
But as I say, well done with your response and observations, bravo
Based on what?Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 pmOf course we all know the history and the current situation. All countries have the same calendar, the same professional knowledge and no doubt the same issues, yet are nowhere near the levels of testing achieved in the UK. When measured by tests per million population. Having started behind the others we are now in front. So we have actually got somewhere. Further than others in fact. A recent BBC report acknowledged this too, surprisingly. So it’s not my observation but one reported by the Beeb.kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pmYeah well done, they've only had since March to make sure the capacity for testing would NEVER be a problem , now they're telling us in September at the beginning of the 2nd wave that the wrong people are taking the tests up....
Maybe if they allowed the profesional knowledgeable people to do the work rather than outsourcing the work to their corrupt and useless cronies/old pals we might have actually got somewhere
But as I say, well done with your response and observations, bravo
Other countries testing workedDohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 pmOf course we all know the history and the current situation. All countries have the same calendar, the same professional knowledge and no doubt the same issues, yet are nowhere near the levels of testing achieved in the UK. When measured by tests per million population. Having started behind the others we are now in front. So we have actually got somewhere. Further than others in fact. A recent BBC report acknowledged this too, surprisingly. So it’s not my observation but one reported by the Beeb.kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pmYeah well done, they've only had since March to make sure the capacity for testing would NEVER be a problem , now they're telling us in September at the beginning of the 2nd wave that the wrong people are taking the tests up....
Maybe if they allowed the profesional knowledgeable people to do the work rather than outsourcing the work to their corrupt and useless cronies/old pals we might have actually got somewhere
But as I say, well done with your response and observations, bravo
I’m not trying to make any political points here. My dislike for Johnson is well documented. But the numbers are public, published daily and pretty clear. In fact, that we were slow off the blocks makes our leading position more remarkable.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:24 pmOther countries testing workedDohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 pmOf course we all know the history and the current situation. All countries have the same calendar, the same professional knowledge and no doubt the same issues, yet are nowhere near the levels of testing achieved in the UK. When measured by tests per million population. Having started behind the others we are now in front. So we have actually got somewhere. Further than others in fact. A recent BBC report acknowledged this too, surprisingly. So it’s not my observation but one reported by the Beeb.kokomO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pm
Yeah well done, they've only had since March to make sure the capacity for testing would NEVER be a problem , now they're telling us in September at the beginning of the 2nd wave that the wrong people are taking the tests up....
Maybe if they allowed the profesional knowledgeable people to do the work rather than outsourcing the work to their corrupt and useless cronies/old pals we might have actually got somewhere
But as I say, well done with your response and observations, bravo
Other Countries prepared properly
After the Initial outbreak .
This bunch of chancers have stumbled
From pillar to post on everything they do.
Again as has been said hoping you get a chance to see your sister ,Dohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:40 pmI’m not trying to make any political points here. My dislike for Johnson is well documented. But the numbers are public, published daily and pretty clear. In fact, that we were slow off the blocks makes our leading position more remarkable.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:24 pmOther countries testing workedDohnut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 pm
Of course we all know the history and the current situation. All countries have the same calendar, the same professional knowledge and no doubt the same issues, yet are nowhere near the levels of testing achieved in the UK. When measured by tests per million population. Having started behind the others we are now in front. So we have actually got somewhere. Further than others in fact. A recent BBC report acknowledged this too, surprisingly. So it’s not my observation but one reported by the Beeb.
Other Countries prepared properly
After the Initial outbreak .
This bunch of chancers have stumbled
From pillar to post on everything they do.
The issue is people trying to make hysterical political points in terms of testing that are not backed up by current numbers. Our current testing issues are a shambles. I worry, my daughter is a teacher, 6-7 year olds. Social distancing is near impossible and almost every day kids come in with all sorts of ailments. She worries about picking it up and spreading it around. It affects us as a family every day.
My sister is in a care home where Covid has been identified. Visiting restrictions of course. I wonder if I will ever see my sister again. Age and illness is not on her side.
But the shambles is there because we have pushed our systems to the limits and beyond to achieve incredible daily testing numbers and the cracks are showing. Ironically had the Government set more modest targets we would be coping very well. Ambition is being punished.