Starmer is continuing to go 'all guns blazing' into demonizing Corbyn and his staff. Seeking the objective truth of what went on at Labour HQ (as possibly indicated by the so far undisclosed Forde enquiry) seems to have been blocked by the current Labour HQ. Starmer is risking the party going bankrupt rather than face an objective assessment of the scheming that went on in Labour HQ against Corbyn, the elected leader.
It could have been so easily resolved by offering Corbyn a shadow cabinet role in a portfolio where Corbyn has particular expertise and working together!
But maybe Starmer's ultimate string pullers (those who are financing him) wouldn't like it?
Can’t Sirkier just do all that legal work for free?
zero would never have happened
but as an island in control of our
boarders then , Yes he as leader is
ultimately responsible .
The KPIs would show that categorically !
Of course 0 would never happen irrespective of who was in charge so by your own admission blaming all the deaths on him was wrong. Extremist. A more sensible stance is to speculate how many avoidable deaths were down to Government decisions. Now that is a reasonable position.
As leader he was responsible for deaths in his country be it 1 or 138,000 .
Needs were ignored whilst dallying with other needs that were far less
important & therefore shows the wilfull incompetence on his part !
Nice point switching. You said he was responsible for the deaths of 138,000 people. I was simply pointing out the stupid and extremist nature of a comment which I’m sure you now realise was wrong. That’s it! All the other stuff you raise is pure deflection. Too much extremism, not enough genuine critique. That’s all!
Of course 0 would never happen irrespective of who was in charge so by your own admission blaming all the deaths on him was wrong. Extremist. A more sensible stance is to speculate how many avoidable deaths were down to Government decisions. Now that is a reasonable position.
As leader he was responsible for deaths in his country be it 1 or 138,000 .
Needs were ignored whilst dallying with other needs that were far less
important & therefore shows the wilfull incompetence on his part !
I would like to personally thank the Tories for protecting the lives of the 67 million people who didn’t die. Great job Boris
Oh is that an attempt at
if he is responsible for the dead he must be
responsible for thlse who lived ?
Wake up Pal
the 67 million are just going to
pay for all of the financial crime through higher taxes
higher national insurance etc etc .
Of course 0 would never happen irrespective of who was in charge so by your own admission blaming all the deaths on him was wrong. Extremist. A more sensible stance is to speculate how many avoidable deaths were down to Government decisions. Now that is a reasonable position.
As leader he was responsible for deaths in his country be it 1 or 138,000 .
Needs were ignored whilst dallying with other needs that were far less
important & therefore shows the wilfull incompetence on his part !
Nice point switching. You said he was responsible for the deaths of 138,000 people. I was simply pointing out the stupid and extremist nature of a comment which I’m sure you now realise was wrong. That’s it! All the other stuff you raise is pure deflection. Too much extremism, not enough genuine critique. That’s all!
No point switching
He is responsible as PM for everything the government has done
with regard 138,000 deaths , Hardly Extremism
He even says so himself here in the video clip
Otherwise its Just you Blinded by Hatred for any kind of
Socialism being cleverer or understanding Life that bit better .
As leader he was responsible for deaths in his country be it 1 or 138,000 .
Needs were ignored whilst dallying with other needs that were far less
important & therefore shows the wilfull incompetence on his part !
I would like to personally thank the Tories for protecting the lives of the 67 million people who didn’t die. Great job Boris
Oh is that an attempt at
if he is responsible for the dead he must be
responsible for thlse who lived ?
Wake up Pal
the 67 million are just going to
pay for all of the financial crime through higher taxes
higher national insurance etc etc .
Only the ones who are working. Don’t worry , it won’t cost your benefit scrounges a single penny
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:56 am
by George M
The sooner we get back to a better paid work based society, and away from a sitting indoors drinking Stella , watching the racing , counting benefits based society , the better
I would like to personally thank the Tories for protecting the lives of the 67 million people who didn’t die. Great job Boris
Oh is that an attempt at
if he is responsible for the dead he must be
responsible for thlse who lived ?
Wake up Pal
the 67 million are just going to
pay for all of the financial crime through higher taxes
higher national insurance etc etc .
Only the ones who are working. Don’t worry , it won’t cost your benefit scrounges a single penny
Again attacking those who find themselves out of work .
Pensioners take the biggest slice of the benefit system you know
are you saying Covid was all about saving Benefit money from the older.generation ?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:04 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:56 am
The sooner we get back to a better paid work based society, and away from a sitting indoors drinking Stella , watching the racing , counting benefits based society , the better
Have you replaced your Forrin workers with
British workers yet ?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:06 pm
by George M
I am absolutely happy for those who are genuinely in need of help receiving it. I am completely happy to contribute. So let’s have a fair system where it reaches those who are in need. There’s plenty to go around. Take it from those who take advantage
George wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:56 am
The sooner we get back to a better paid work based society, and away from a sitting indoors drinking Stella , watching the racing , counting benefits based society , the better
Have you replaced your Forrin workers with
British workers yet ?
George wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:56 am
The sooner we get back to a better paid work based society, and away from a sitting indoors drinking Stella , watching the racing , counting benefits based society , the better
Have you replaced your Forrin workers with
British workers yet ?
As can be seen , plenty of work for the shirkers
Im sure there is .
Good job im not looking for work so
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:11 pm
by tuffers#1
George wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:06 pm
I am absolutely happy for those who are genuinely in need of help receiving it. I am completely happy to contribute. So let’s have a fair system where it reaches those who are in need. There’s plenty to go around. Take it from those who take advantage
Wont that mean Rich people will pay more then as they
seem to be the ones taking advantage
Sounds like a Great Communist Leftie plan to me
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:13 pm
by Thor
Tuffers now you’ve resolved your housing situation I thought you were going to return to work?
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:14 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:13 pm
Tuffers now you’ve resolved your housing situation I thought you were going to return to work?
I thought so to Thorbyn
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:58 pm
by Thor
Keep going tuffers something will present itself soon enough.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:29 pm
by George M
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:58 pm
Keep going tuffers something will present itself soon enough.
Press officer for the Labour Party surely. He has more passion than those already in place
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:38 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
George wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:06 pm
Take it from those who take advantage
Absolutely this. Those who take advantage of our system - the corporations with Luxembourg based HQs and their flaky management and interest charges, the wealthy individuals with their off-shore bank accounts, the companies that won’t pay a living wage so us tax payers have to pay their staff tax credits - need to cough up what they owe.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:51 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:58 pm
Keep going tuffers something will present itself soon enough.
Thorby ,
I am not looking to work ,
Acouple of people have asked me to & I
have told them at the moment im not available .
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:58 pm
Keep going tuffers something will present itself soon enough.
Press officer for the Labour Party surely. He has more passion than those already in place
Id much rather be PO for SF
proper Marxist Leninist democratic centralism .
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:19 am
by Dunners
I wouldn't normally do this, but this long thread is a good study and explanation of why we are in a culture war, and how Starmer was probably doomed at the start.
And the conclusions on how to best manage certain types of people will understandably not be comfortable for some.
Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:19 am
I wouldn't normally do this, but this long thread is a good study and explanation of why we are in a culture war, and how Starmer was probably doomed at the start.
And the conclusions on how to best manage certain types of people will understandably not be comfortable for some.
Pseudo science.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:19 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
I think you might be one of the left authoritarians alluded to in the above, so not surprised you don’t get it. You need to be one of the non-authoritarian centrists like dunnem or Thorge or dohnut to understand all this guff.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:35 am
by Max B Gold
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:19 am
I think you might be one of the left authoritarians alluded to in the above, so not surprised you don’t get it. You need to be one of the non-authoritarian centrists like dunnem or Thorge or dohnut to understand all this guff.
Indeed. Keech Starmer was doomed from the start because of his vacuous politics and his centrist authoritarianism that escalated the war in the Labour Party.
JC tolerated the centrist traitors during his time as leader. My view is that he should not have. With a base of 600k members the world was his Lobster.
Re: Labour Watch
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:37 am
by Dunners
i reckon he may still be able to turn it around if he just talks about his Dad in that factory a bit more.
