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StockholmO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:43 pm Piers Corbyn fined £10,000 for organising yesterday’s protest.

Not Piers Morgan...Damm i wish it was him

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:26 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:51 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:05 pm Whats the considered opinion of this report by the CDC? I’d be interested to read people’s views.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... orbidities

I don't know, what does the report say?

Looking at the updated deaths of covid as the only reason for death. It’s something like 9,200 people only.

That is still staggeringly high for an airborne disease. We can never know exactly, but of the tens of thousands of people dead with it, how many would have died having not had it and its weakening effects? If I have a lung condition but can live with it and then get Covid-19 and die, is that still excess or considered OK? Of course not. So as much as I'm all for positive outlooks and finding where the good news is, we need to exercise caution in the way we read this sorta info.

StockholmO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:43 pm Piers Corbyn fined £10,000 for organising yesterday’s protest.

How did Piers Morgan Get on ?

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:00 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:45 pm One explanation from BBC news

By the time lockdown came there were an estimated 100,000 new infections a day in the UK.

Today we have over 1,000 confirmed infections a day, on average.

I know the BBC like to overstate the case, but 100,000 new infections a day - are you sure?

I think at the peak it was more like approx 5k infections a day across the UK.

5k is people who were tested and at that time we weren't testing many.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:58 am

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:00 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:45 pm One explanation from BBC news

By the time lockdown came there were an estimated 100,000 new infections a day in the UK.

Today we have over 1,000 confirmed infections a day, on average.

I know the BBC like to overstate the case, but 100,000 new infections a day - are you sure?

I think at the peak it was more like approx 5k infections a day across the UK.

5k is people who were tested and at that time we weren't testing many.

I see, 5k confirmed via tests vs 100k estimated, which I assume the BBC is extrapolating from the ONS survey.

Almost 3000 new cases today. FFS Ling!

This virus ain't going away any time soon I reckon

Deaths are extremely low though. People are recovering 99.98% of the time.

I wouldn't dare suggest you are thick for thinking not dying means the same thing as recovery.

Deaths are much reduced - but if you're defining "recovering" as not dying, then I think that entirely omits the increasing evidence of serious long term effects from infection.

also, what Mick said

What % of people have lasting effects from the virus?

And would be interested to know what those effects are. I've heard of people suffering fatigue.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... %20fatigue.

https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/author/drmalcolmkendrick/

A very interesting read.

Try this first-hand account: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53948028

Mickys Bullock wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:01 pm https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/author/drmalcolmkendrick/

A very interesting read.

Yes, interesting. It does get a bit 'I'm-right-and-everyone-else-is-wrong' at the end though. I don't claim to understand it all, but if some of the best brains in the world are working on this I find it a bit hard to understand how this error/misunderstanding has failed to be corrected more widely.

2,948 more infections reported today, so at least that's a small drop.

Though not sure if this will be impacted from the same weekend reporting bias as we saw a few months ago for deaths.

A Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:20 pm Try this first-hand account: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53948028

Her illness sounds horrific.

Monique has no idea how to get better. She may never know for sure that she had Covid-19...

It's a first hand account of something but what?

We're finally getting some access to the weekly testing which was promised first week of August I think. Covers about 5% of our workforce and as Peter has been robbing Paul again it means that our access to tests for people who are symptomatic has been massively reduced. Oh, and turn around time for results is 4 days at best which basically makes it almost entirely useless.

faldO wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:47 pm

A Pedant wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:20 pm Try this first-hand account: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53948028

Her illness sounds horrific.

Monique has no idea how to get better. She may never know for sure that she had Covid-19...

It's a first hand account of something but what?

The answer is in the article: "She has suspected "long-tail Covid" a distinct reaction to the virus that doctors are just beginning to study."

Gatherings of more than 6 to be banned next week

Norway is at the “red” corona level. Major local outbreak in Bergen as well.

We can`t complain. We have been lucky so far.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:29 pm Gatherings of more than 6 to be banned next week

Why wait until next week. If it’s needed then do it straight away. Dumbarse incompetent twats.

These changes have always come in on a Monday.