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Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am FFS. A crisis at the fuel pumps and labour's polling goes backwards. Even Hague's hapless Tories managed to draw level with Blairs Labour during the 2000 petrol blockades.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/931731.stm

To be fair, this poll hasn't allowed time for Kier's conference speech and essay to filter down throughout the public yet.

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am FFS. A crisis at the fuel pumps and labour's polling goes backwards. Even Hague's hapless Tories managed to draw level with Blairs Labour during the 2000 petrol blockades.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/931731.stm

Electric companies failing all over the place as well, bills going through the roof, and people still lap it up.

54% vote share for a centrist/progressive coalition. Massive shame the dinosaur unions voted against a motion to get Labour behind supporting proportional representation.

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:53 am

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am FFS. A crisis at the fuel pumps and labour's polling goes backwards. Even Hague's hapless Tories managed to draw level with Blairs Labour during the 2000 petrol blockades.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/931731.stm

To be fair, this poll hasn't allowed time for Kier's conference speech and essay to filter down throughout the public yet.

It will drop even further when they do .
I cant wait for the £15 minimum wage . I will need to increase mine to £45 to keep ahead . Either that our i will be straight down Costa for a stress free job

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:53 am

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am FFS. A crisis at the fuel pumps and labour's polling goes backwards. Even Hague's hapless Tories managed to draw level with Blairs Labour during the 2000 petrol blockades.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/931731.stm

To be fair, this poll hasn't allowed time for Kier's conference speech and essay to filter down throughout the public yet.

Have you not done me the precis of his masterpiece yet? No way I'm reading 14,000 words.

Under PR Greens would have 58 MPs, but under first past the post, they will probably get 1
We have no democracy in this country .

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:48 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:18 am

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am FFS. A crisis at the fuel pumps and labour's polling goes backwards. Even Hague's hapless Tories managed to draw level with Blairs Labour during the 2000 petrol blockades.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/931731.stm

Mibees the voters don't want to vote for a Labour Party at war with itself led by a rubber faced loser. Just sayin'

They certainly didn’t vote for Labour with all its issues, lead by a two-faced loser.

Labour's share of the vote in the last four General Elections proves you are talking utter, utter, utter bollix. No surprises there.

The numbers are as follows:

Under Corbyn

2019 - 32.2%

2017 - a whopping 40%. This was before the right wing wreckers ramped up their destabilisation campaign.

Under some geeky guy called Edward

2015 - 30%

Under Knees up Mother Brown

2010 - a miserable 29%

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:08 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:53 am

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:13 am FFS. A crisis at the fuel pumps and labour's polling goes backwards. Even Hague's hapless Tories managed to draw level with Blairs Labour during the 2000 petrol blockades.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/931731.stm

To be fair, this poll hasn't allowed time for Kier's conference speech and essay to filter down throughout the public yet.

Have you not done me the precis of his masterpiece yet? No way I'm reading 14,000 words.

Dad toolmaker, mum dead, donkey sanctuary, pro bono, knighthood, not Corbyn.

Boring. This version would be much more interesting:

Dad donkey, Mum Corbyn, owns a Toolmaker sanctuary, pro Bono from U2 being dead, no to knighthoods.

I need to hear more about the Toolmaker sanctuary.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:27 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:48 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:18 am

Mibees the voters don't want to vote for a Labour Party at war with itself led by a rubber faced loser. Just sayin'

They certainly didn’t vote for Labour with all its issues, lead by a two-faced loser.

Labour's share of the vote in the last four General Elections proves you are talking utter, utter, utter bollix. No surprises there.

The numbers are as follows:

Under Corbyn

2019 - 32.2%

2017 - a whopping 40%. This was before the right wing wreckers ramped up their destabilisation campaign.

Under some geeky guy called Edward

2015 - 30%

Under Knees up Mother Brown

2010 - a miserable 29%

Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:27 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:48 am

They certainly didn’t vote for Labour with all its issues, lead by a two-faced loser.

Labour's share of the vote in the last four General Elections proves you are talking utter, utter, utter bollix. No surprises there.

The numbers are as follows:

Under Corbyn

2019 - 32.2%

2017 - a whopping 40%. This was before the right wing wreckers ramped up their destabilisation campaign.

Under some geeky guy called Edward

2015 - 30%

Under Knees up Mother Brown

2010 - a miserable 29%

Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init

Indeed and that's why we should have PR

Having left The Labour party after 40 years I find it so funny when in political discussion down the rubber that people get annoyed with me when I agree with them the Labour Party is finished.
Their faces when I agree with them that they have no chance ever to get elected again agree this Country is in the the best hands possible.
They are really more unhappy with me than when I was in The Party and the one that really gets them is when asked why did you leave? and I answer.
Because we are in safe hands at the moment.

Bluecap wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:47 pm
Because we are in safe hands at the moment.

Christ. I'd hate to imagine what you consider unsafe hands to be.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:51 pm I need to hear more about the Toolmaker sanctuary.

It's just outside Shrewsbury on the A5. Retired Toolmakers are allowed to congregate in a protected area, operate lathes and other toolmaking machinery without fear of being abused by Tory voting employers.

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:19 pm

Bluecap wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:47 pm
Because we are in safe hands at the moment.

Christ. I'd hate to imagine what you consider unsafe hands to be.

I see irony is not one of your strong points

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:27 pm

Labour's share of the vote in the last four General Elections proves you are talking utter, utter, utter bollix. No surprises there.

The numbers are as follows:

Under Corbyn

2019 - 32.2%

2017 - a whopping 40%. This was before the right wing wreckers ramped up their destabilisation campaign.

Under some geeky guy called Edward

2015 - 30%

Under Knees up Mother Brown

2010 - a miserable 29%

Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init

Indeed and that's why we should have PR

Football should be decided on PR. Possession Rate. Last season we would have been promoted. Shame it’s determined by individual results success. Bummer.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:39 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm

Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init

Indeed and that's why we should have PR

Football should be decided on PR. Possession Rate. Last season we would have been promoted. Shame it’s determined by individual results success. Bummer.

More importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.

Bluecap wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:33 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:19 pm

Bluecap wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:47 pm
Because we are in safe hands at the moment.

Christ. I'd hate to imagine what you consider unsafe hands to be.

I see irony is not one of your strong points

It's up there with your attempts at humour.

That was too easy

* Shrugs.

* Logs off.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:39 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pm

Indeed and that's why we should have PR

Football should be decided on PR. Possession Rate. Last season we would have been promoted. Shame it’s determined by individual results success. Bummer.

More importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.

How Many World Cups Have Germany won again ?
They have PR
Now i know many Englundish will claim 2 world wars
but i give you
Porsche Mercedes BMW Audi VW
Siemens Allianz Bosch Aldi Bayer
Puma Adidas Hugo Boss DHL Braun .

Hmmmm who won again ?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:39 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pm

Indeed and that's why we should have PR

Football should be decided on PR. Possession Rate. Last season we would have been promoted. Shame it’s determined by individual results success. Bummer.

More importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.

Not much in life is in truth.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:03 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:51 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:39 pm

Football should be decided on PR. Possession Rate. Last season we would have been promoted. Shame it’s determined by individual results success. Bummer.

More importantly it isn't very democratic. At least football doesn't pretend to be that.

How Many World Cups Have Germany won again ?
They have PR
Now i know many Englundish will claim 2 world wars
but i give you
Porsche Mercedes BMW Audi VW
Siemens Allianz Bosch Aldi Bayer
Puma Adidas Hugo Boss DHL Braun .

Hmmmm who won again ?

The master race. We can’t match their track record, especially when it comes to democracy and fair play.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:58 pm

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:27 pm

Labour's share of the vote in the last four General Elections proves you are talking utter, utter, utter bollix. No surprises there.

The numbers are as follows:

Under Corbyn

2019 - 32.2%

2017 - a whopping 40%. This was before the right wing wreckers ramped up their destabilisation campaign.

Under some geeky guy called Edward

2015 - 30%

Under Knees up Mother Brown

2010 - a miserable 29%

Shame elections are determined by seats and not vote share init

Indeed and that's why we should have PR

But a professor in the guardian said this week Labour would not stand a chance under PR.