Tory Watch

[Dunners]

We are mugs.

[tuffers#1]

[Dunners]

Hmmm.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

How much are these guys paid for these roles? £100k p.a? £200k p.a?

Do people really think they’re doing these jobs for that pittance? It’s all about the ‘perks’, and I don’t mean rifling away a few reams of headed paper.

[Currywurst and Chips]

This is quite serious

The story has been rumbling for a week and OOLO/BusinessTitanO still hasn't waded in with the "They're all the same" line

[Max B Gold]

This is quite serious

The story has been rumbling for a week and OOLO/BusinessTitanO still hasn't waded in with the "They're all the same" line

He's keeping his powder dry because he knows the revelations of corruption that have come to light so far are only the tip of the fatberg.

[tuffers#1]

[tuffers#1]

Oops Bodge's mate accidentally outed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56667960

Covid contracts: PPE fixer who was Tory donor named in admin error.

[Max B Gold]

Oops Bodge's mate accidentally outed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56667960

Covid contracts: PPE fixer who was Tory donor named in admin error.

The Tories are going to have one hell of a war chest to fight the next election with once all of these ludicrously lucrative contracts money finds its way back to the party in the form of "Donations".

With 80% of the "free press" owned by 6 billionaires, with strikingly similar pro capitalist anti Labour views, its going to be an uphill battle for SirKeith.

At least democracy isn't under threat in any way.

[tuffers#1]

Oops Bodge's mate accidentally outed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56667960

Covid contracts: PPE fixer who was Tory donor named in admin error.

The Tories are going to have one hell of a war chest to fight the next election with once all of these ludicrously lucrative contracts money finds its way back to the party in the form of "Donations".

With 80% of the "free press" owned by 6 billionaires, with strikingly similar pro capitalist anti Labour views, its going to be an uphill battle for SirKeith.

At least democracy isn't under threat in any way.

Its under threat everyday Maxy
We both know that .

[Dunners]

Boris has the authority.

[Max B Gold]

Boris has the authority.

If only Dyson were a UK based company things could have been so much more straightforward.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Over two and a half million pounds for a press briefing room that won't now be used as a press briefing room.

But at least he wears his poppy at the right f*cking angle, I suppose.

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-04-20/dow ... g-scrapped

[tuffers#1]

Boris has the authority.

If only Dyson were a UK based company things could have been so much more straightforward.

Was there a specific reason they moved ?

[Max B Gold]

Boris has the authority.

If only Dyson were a UK based company things could have been so much more straightforward.

Was there a specific reason they moved ?

I only have 33 years experience working in the field of taxation but I suspect the answer may be that he had visions of making riches beyond the dreams of avarice. For non religious types that translates as a plain old greedy selfish capitalist.

[tuffers#1]

If only Dyson were a UK based company things could have been so much more straightforward.

Was there a specific reason they moved ?

I only have 33 years experience working in the field of taxation but I suspect the answer may be that he had visions of making riches beyond the dreams of avarice. For non religious types that translates as a plain old greedy selfish capitalist.

I see . But why couldnt he just be a greedy B*st*rd here ?

[Max B Gold]

Was there a specific reason they moved ?

I only have 33 years experience working in the field of taxation but I suspect the answer may be that he had visions of making riches beyond the dreams of avarice. For non religious types that translates as a plain old greedy selfish capitalist.

I see . But why couldnt he just be a greedy B*st*rd here ?

Leading question M'Lud.

I've told you already it's nothing to do with lower personal or corporate taxes, greater exploitation of labour, etc. It simply can't be because this Dyson fella is an ardent Brexiteer and would never not pay UK taxes or sack UK workers if it was in any way avoidable.

Of course it was unavoidable in his specific case because he is just plain greedy. Worrakunt.

[tuffers#1]

I only have 33 years experience working in the field of taxation but I suspect the answer may be that he had visions of making riches beyond the dreams of avarice. For non religious types that translates as a plain old greedy selfish capitalist.

I see . But why couldnt he just be a greedy B*st*rd here ?

Leading question M'Lud.

I've told you already it's nothing to do with lower personal or corporate taxes, greater exploitation of labour, etc. It simply can't be because this Dyson fella is an ardent Brexiteer and would never not pay UK taxes or sack UK workers if it was in any way avoidable.

Of course it was unavoidable in his specific case because he us just plain greedy. Worrakunt.

Forgive me for the leading question .
1 is only trying to Garner the TRUTH .

Thank you for your honest answer Good Sir

[Sid Bishop]

Fact of the matter is that as understanding of the covid pandemic emerged, the Dyson ventilators were not required and Dyson lost 20 Million pounds as a result of this project to develop and provide this medical equipment in a very short time for an emergency situation. You could no doubt nit pick over the way some of the wartime contracts were done under Lord Beaverbrook but production soared of planes, tanks, guns and ammunition under his leadership, he helped to get things done and that is what matters.

Quote .... Dyson said "Our ventilator cost Dyson £20m, freely given to the national cause, and it is absurd to suggest that the urgent correspondence was anything other than seeking compliance with rules, as 450 Dyson people - in UK and Singapore - worked around the clock, seven days a week to build potentially life-saving equipment at a time of dire need.

"Mercifully they were not required as medical understanding of the virus evolved. Neither Weybourne nor Dyson received any benefit from the project, indeed commercial projects were delayed, and Dyson voluntarily covered the £20m of development costs."
Sir James also said his company had not claimed "one penny" from governments in any jurisdiction, in relation to Covid.

Laura Kuenssberg....''Lobbying can be absolutely legitimate. It's part of how Westminster lives and breathes. Who would object to a small charity approaching its local MP to ask for help ? There are thousands of different circumstances in which having those discussions is perfectly valid.
Sir James was trying to respond to the urgent call for help at the start of the pandemic, when there was deep and genuine fear that the NHS simply wouldn't have the equipment to look after many thousands of patients at risk. But Dyson also, understandably perhaps, wanted to be clear about protecting its business from any extra costs or liabilities. (In the end remember, they lost money from the project.)
And the prime minister was heavily involved in efforts to get hold of ventilators and in touch with many businesses as the pandemic took hold.''

Former Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he found it "hard to get worked up" about the contact between Mr Johnson and Sir James, as it had happened "in the middle of a pandemic". The government had been "asking James Dyson to start making ventilators", he added, saying: "There's got to be a certain degree of understanding if we are in the middle of a huge crisis like this."
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden told BBC Breakfast: "In the middle of a national emergency, we had to move fast...that's what the prime minister did in this instance." He added: "This went through Parliament in a transparent way. There was an opportunity for MPs to be able to vote on it. And it was indeed a very temporary measure."

[tuffers#1]

Fact of the matter is that as understanding of the covid pandemic emerged, the Dyson ventilators were not required and Dyson lost 20 Million pounds as a result of this project to develop and provide this medical equipment in a very short time for an emergency situation. You could no doubt nit pick over the way some of the wartime contracts were done under Lord Beaverbrook but production soared of planes, tanks, guns and ammunition under his leadership, he helped to get things done and that is what matters.

Quote .... Dyson said "Our ventilator cost Dyson £20m, freely given to the national cause, and it is absurd to suggest that the urgent correspondence was anything other than seeking compliance with rules, as 450 Dyson people - in UK and Singapore - worked around the clock, seven days a week to build potentially life-saving equipment at a time of dire need.

"Mercifully they were not required as medical understanding of the virus evolved. Neither Weybourne nor Dyson received any benefit from the project, indeed commercial projects were delayed, and Dyson voluntarily covered the £20m of development costs."
Sir James also said his company had not claimed "one penny" from governments in any jurisdiction, in relation to Covid.

Laura Kuenssberg....''Lobbying can be absolutely legitimate. It's part of how Westminster lives and breathes. Who would object to a small charity approaching its local MP to ask for help ? There are thousands of different circumstances in which having those discussions is perfectly valid.
Sir James was trying to respond to the urgent call for help at the start of the pandemic, when there was deep and genuine fear that the NHS simply wouldn't have the equipment to look after many thousands of patients at risk. But Dyson also, understandably perhaps, wanted to be clear about protecting its business from any extra costs or liabilities. (In the end remember, they lost money from the project.)
And the prime minister was heavily involved in efforts to get hold of ventilators and in touch with many businesses as the pandemic took hold.''

Former Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he found it "hard to get worked up" about the contact between Mr Johnson and Sir James, as it had happened "in the middle of a pandemic". The government had been "asking James Dyson to start making ventilators", he added, saying: "There's got to be a certain degree of understanding if we are in the middle of a huge crisis like this."
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden told BBC Breakfast: "In the middle of a national emergency, we had to move fast...that's what the prime minister did in this instance." He added: "This went through Parliament in a transparent way. There was an opportunity for MPs to be able to vote on it. And it was indeed a very temporary measure."

Dyson are a small charity .
Did Laura really say that ?

[Max B Gold]

Fact of the matter is that as understanding of the covid pandemic emerged, the Dyson ventilators were not required and Dyson lost 20 Million pounds as a result of this project to develop and provide this medical equipment in a very short time for an emergency situation. You could no doubt nit pick over the way some of the wartime contracts were done under Lord Beaverbrook but production soared of planes, tanks, guns and ammunition under his leadership, he helped to get things done and that is what matters.

Quote .... Dyson said "Our ventilator cost Dyson £20m, freely given to the national cause, and it is absurd to suggest that the urgent correspondence was anything other than seeking compliance with rules, as 450 Dyson people - in UK and Singapore - worked around the clock, seven days a week to build potentially life-saving equipment at a time of dire need.

"Mercifully they were not required as medical understanding of the virus evolved. Neither Weybourne nor Dyson received any benefit from the project, indeed commercial projects were delayed, and Dyson voluntarily covered the £20m of development costs."
Sir James also said his company had not claimed "one penny" from governments in any jurisdiction, in relation to Covid.

Laura Kuenssberg....''Lobbying can be absolutely legitimate. It's part of how Westminster lives and breathes. Who would object to a small charity approaching its local MP to ask for help ? There are thousands of different circumstances in which having those discussions is perfectly valid.
Sir James was trying to respond to the urgent call for help at the start of the pandemic, when there was deep and genuine fear that the NHS simply wouldn't have the equipment to look after many thousands of patients at risk. But Dyson also, understandably perhaps, wanted to be clear about protecting its business from any extra costs or liabilities. (In the end remember, they lost money from the project.)
And the prime minister was heavily involved in efforts to get hold of ventilators and in touch with many businesses as the pandemic took hold.''

Former Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he found it "hard to get worked up" about the contact between Mr Johnson and Sir James, as it had happened "in the middle of a pandemic". The government had been "asking James Dyson to start making ventilators", he added, saying: "There's got to be a certain degree of understanding if we are in the middle of a huge crisis like this."
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden told BBC Breakfast: "In the middle of a national emergency, we had to move fast...that's what the prime minister did in this instance." He added: "This went through Parliament in a transparent way. There was an opportunity for MPs to be able to vote on it. And it was indeed a very temporary measure."

Dyson are a small charity .
Did Laura really say that ?

Is it not the case that Dyson ventilators were sub standard and could not be used in the UK. Therefore, the developmenmt costs are his to bear because he sought to benefit commercially if he had been able to produce a saleable product.

If he was so keen to help tax should have been the least of his worries. I sense the tax position applied more to him than his staff or companies. I'm wondering if he made any substantial asset disposals after he scampered off to a tax haven. If so, his return to the UK could have triggered a substantial CGT liability.

Finally, Mrs Eva Bronstein Gold bought one of his cordless hoovers and the battery life on it is utter cack. Do not buy Dyson products.

[tuffers#1]

Fact of the matter is that as understanding of the covid pandemic emerged, the Dyson ventilators were not required and Dyson lost 20 Million pounds as a result of this project to develop and provide this medical equipment in a very short time for an emergency situation. You could no doubt nit pick over the way some of the wartime contracts were done under Lord Beaverbrook but production soared of planes, tanks, guns and ammunition under his leadership, he helped to get things done and that is what matters.

Quote .... Dyson said "Our ventilator cost Dyson £20m, freely given to the national cause, and it is absurd to suggest that the urgent correspondence was anything other than seeking compliance with rules, as 450 Dyson people - in UK and Singapore - worked around the clock, seven days a week to build potentially life-saving equipment at a time of dire need.

"Mercifully they were not required as medical understanding of the virus evolved. Neither Weybourne nor Dyson received any benefit from the project, indeed commercial projects were delayed, and Dyson voluntarily covered the £20m of development costs."
Sir James also said his company had not claimed "one penny" from governments in any jurisdiction, in relation to Covid.

Laura Kuenssberg....''Lobbying can be absolutely legitimate. It's part of how Westminster lives and breathes. Who would object to a small charity approaching its local MP to ask for help ? There are thousands of different circumstances in which having those discussions is perfectly valid.
Sir James was trying to respond to the urgent call for help at the start of the pandemic, when there was deep and genuine fear that the NHS simply wouldn't have the equipment to look after many thousands of patients at risk. But Dyson also, understandably perhaps, wanted to be clear about protecting its business from any extra costs or liabilities. (In the end remember, they lost money from the project.)
And the prime minister was heavily involved in efforts to get hold of ventilators and in touch with many businesses as the pandemic took hold.''

Former Labour Prime Minister Tony Blair told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he found it "hard to get worked up" about the contact between Mr Johnson and Sir James, as it had happened "in the middle of a pandemic". The government had been "asking James Dyson to start making ventilators", he added, saying: "There's got to be a certain degree of understanding if we are in the middle of a huge crisis like this."
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden told BBC Breakfast: "In the middle of a national emergency, we had to move fast...that's what the prime minister did in this instance." He added: "This went through Parliament in a transparent way. There was an opportunity for MPs to be able to vote on it. And it was indeed a very temporary measure."

Dyson are a small charity .
Did Laura really say that ?

Is it not the case that Dyson ventilators were sub standard and could not be used in the UK. Therefore, the developmenmt costs are his to bear because he sought to benefit commercially if he had been able to produce a saleable product.

If he was so keen to help tax should have been the least of his worries. I sense the tax position applied more to him than his staff or companies. I'm wondering if he made any substantial asset disposals after he scampered off to a tax haven. If so, his return to the UK could have triggered a substantial CGT liability.

Finally, Mrs Eva Bronstein Gold bought one of his cordless hoovers and the battery life on it is utter cack. Do not buy Dyson products.

Can we take from this that our Sid ,
Was trying to pull the wool over our ?

[Max B Gold]

Dyson are a small charity .
Did Laura really say that ?

Is it not the case that Dyson ventilators were sub standard and could not be used in the UK. Therefore, the developmenmt costs are his to bear because he sought to benefit commercially if he had been able to produce a saleable product.

If he was so keen to help tax should have been the least of his worries. I sense the tax position applied more to him than his staff or companies. I'm wondering if he made any substantial asset disposals after he scampered off to a tax haven. If so, his return to the UK could have triggered a substantial CGT liability.

Finally, Mrs Eva Bronstein Gold bought one of his cordless hoovers and the battery life on it is utter cack. Do not buy Dyson products.

Can we take from this that our Sid ,
Was trying to pull the wool over our ?

He's just repeating Tory spin which he scrapes from the Interspazz and posts it here like its his considered thoughts when actually its propoganda.

[tuffers#1]

Is it not the case that Dyson ventilators were sub standard and could not be used in the UK. Therefore, the developmenmt costs are his to bear because he sought to benefit commercially if he had been able to produce a saleable product.

If he was so keen to help tax should have been the least of his worries. I sense the tax position applied more to him than his staff or companies. I'm wondering if he made any substantial asset disposals after he scampered off to a tax haven. If so, his return to the UK could have triggered a substantial CGT liability.

Finally, Mrs Eva Bronstein Gold bought one of his cordless hoovers and the battery life on it is utter cack. Do not buy Dyson products.

Can we take from this that our Sid ,
Was trying to pull the wool over our ?

He's just repeating Tory spin which he scrapes from the Interspazz and posts it here like its his considered thoughts when actually its propoganda.

Ahh i see .


Sidney , HOW COULD YOU ?

You Rotter !

[Currywurst and Chips]

Given Boris' texts, you know, aren't usually leaked - I wouldn't be surprised if this was a deliberate attempt to shift the focus onto him from other more damaging lobbying allegations

Your average tuff of thinking in the street will look at it and think "He's trying his best to get ventilators "

Much easier to deflect.