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Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:47 pm It was disrespectful to the East Stand fans to have the presentation table oriented toward the West Stand. The club can't afford to turn it's back on its own supporters in such a callous fashion.
Thus? You having a Shakespearean mare sonEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:08 pmPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:03 pm But theres nothing that could have been done to enable to East standers to see, a mob of selfish morons blocking everyones view however...
Better organisation would have lead to the East stand being able to view.
Your logic is thus:
having a restricted view of the presentation is heinous crime
some fans blocked the view
therefore, you have the right to insult them
However, when I point out that many of those blocking the view came from the East stand where the view was block by the nature of the presentation set up so they would have had their view blocked, you don't give a sh*t.
Thus proving your hypocrisy.
You don't care about people having their view blocked. You just like having a opportunity to feel superior and insult fellow fans.
If you really did care about the viewing of a presentation then you would wholeheartedly agree with me about the East Stand.
In fact, your attitude is the opposite. you explicitly state that you don't care about those in the East stand (with the specious and unproven argument that many are not season ticket holders).
So why is it ok for you to not give a hoot about a section of the crowd (East stand)? But those who blocked the view by invading the pitch demonstrate the same lack of care for others that you clearly do. So either:
A. both you and the invaders are, as you describe, "ars*holes", because you both disregard the view of others.
B. nobody is an ars*hole, things just happened the way they did because it was a chaotic situation.
So which one are you wiling to accept. A or B?
Agree. Always much the same people in blocks C and D. Check the gallery photos on the web site throughout the season. Well except when the stand collapsed...
See my 2:50pm postEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:18 pmI'm not getting desperate at all.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:05 pm Separate issue, you're getting increasingly desperate.
I've yet to see a substantial retort to my point about those in the East Stand beyond the tedious "invaders are ars*holes" argument.
Of course there are a few. But my point is correct, the majority of Orient fans in the packed out East Stand on Saturday we’re not season ticket holders.
What evidence do you have for this claim?CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:56 pmOf course there are a few. But my point is correct, the majority of Orient fans in the packed out East Stand on Saturday we’re not season ticket holders.
Of course it makes sense to do the presentation facing the West Stand, it’s the biggest Stand, the most densely populated and the highest priced season tickets. Suggesting it should have been done elsewhere is a bit weird.
It’s also where all the main media outlets areCreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:56 pmOf course there are a few. But my point is correct, the majority of Orient fans in the packed out East Stand on Saturday we’re not season ticket holders.
Of course it makes sense to do the presentation facing the West Stand, it’s the biggest Stand, the most densely populated and the highest priced season tickets. Suggesting it should have been done elsewhere is a bit weird.
When did that happen? Not this season, so invalid point really.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:04 pmIt’s also where all the main media outlets areCreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:56 pmOf course there are a few. But my point is correct, the majority of Orient fans in the packed out East Stand on Saturday we’re not season ticket holders.
Of course it makes sense to do the presentation facing the West Stand, it’s the biggest Stand, the most densely populated and the highest priced season tickets. Suggesting it should have been done elsewhere is a bit weird.
I honestly don’t know what the % rate of season ticket holders is in the East but I remember some games where the away side where given the whole of the east and the club found seats in the rest of the ground for the S/T holders so maybe you have a valid point
When did this happen ?Esteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:11 pmWhen did that happen? Not this season, so invalid point really.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:04 pmIt’s also where all the main media outlets areCreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:56 pm
Of course there are a few. But my point is correct, the majority of Orient fans in the packed out East Stand on Saturday we’re not season ticket holders.
Of course it makes sense to do the presentation facing the West Stand, it’s the biggest Stand, the most densely populated and the highest priced season tickets. Suggesting it should have been done elsewhere is a bit weird.
I honestly don’t know what the % rate of season ticket holders is in the East but I remember some games where the away side where given the whole of the east and the club found seats in the rest of the ground for the S/T holders so maybe you have a valid point
Yes, but as it didn't happen this season it's totally irrelevant to the current conversation about the number of season ticket holders in the East Stand on Saturday.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:17 pmWhen did this happen ?Esteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:11 pmWhen did that happen? Not this season, so invalid point really.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:04 pm
It’s also where all the main media outlets are
I honestly don’t know what the % rate of season ticket holders is in the East but I remember some games where the away side where given the whole of the east and the club found seats in the rest of the ground for the S/T holders so maybe you have a valid point
Quite a few times in my life time maybe you should look it up
3 times in 2013/14 if my memory serves me correctly
I’ve noticed Gloria everything you say is apparently valid everything everyone else says is invalid is that not reverse trolling?
So what did happen this season was part of the East was closed for building work S/T holders where still seated elsewhere in the EastEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:42 pmYes, but as it didn't happen this season it's totally irrelevant to the current conversation about the number of season ticket holders in the East Stand on Saturday.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:17 pmWhen did this happen ?
Quite a few times in my life time maybe you should look it up
3 times in 2013/14 if my memory serves me correctly
I’ve noticed Gloria everything you say is apparently valid everything everyone else says is invalid is that not reverse trolling?
Explain how the number of season tickets in the East Stand 5 years ago is relevant to the number of ST holders in there on Saturday? It isn't, and you know it.
Doesn't that just prove that other stands had plenty of non-season ticket spaces in order to accommodate the relocated East Stand ST holders during the building work?NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:45 pmSo what did happen this season was part of the East was closed for building work S/T holders where still seated elsewhere in the EastEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:42 pmYes, but as it didn't happen this season it's totally irrelevant to the current conversation about the number of season ticket holders in the East Stand on Saturday.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:17 pm
When did this happen ?
Quite a few times in my life time maybe you should look it up
3 times in 2013/14 if my memory serves me correctly
I’ve noticed Gloria everything you say is apparently valid everything everyone else says is invalid is that not reverse trolling?
Explain how the number of season tickets in the East Stand 5 years ago is relevant to the number of ST holders in there on Saturday? It isn't, and you know it.
Was that your first game on Saturday?
Erm can you readEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:56 pmDoesn't that just prove that other stands had plenty of non-season ticket spaces in order to accommodate the relocated East Stand ST holders during the building work?NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:45 pmSo what did happen this season was part of the East was closed for building work S/T holders where still seated elsewhere in the EastEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:42 pm
Yes, but as it didn't happen this season it's totally irrelevant to the current conversation about the number of season ticket holders in the East Stand on Saturday.
Explain how the number of season tickets in the East Stand 5 years ago is relevant to the number of ST holders in there on Saturday? It isn't, and you know it.
Was that your first game on Saturday?
If all other stands were crammed with ST holders then they wouldn't be able to accommodate.
The "glory hunter" line you're trying to WUM me with really is odd. As mentioned, glory hunting in the football conference is an oxymoron.
Nice to see that you recognized the calling me "stephen" tactic really wasn't working at all.
Also nice to see that popular opinion recognizes that you're a troll. A really, really blatant one.
No, because that would require me jumping from the second tier, which wouldn’t be particularly safe.NOM wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:05 pmErm can you readEsteban wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:56 pmDoesn't that just prove that other stands had plenty of non-season ticket spaces in order to accommodate the relocated East Stand ST holders during the building work?
If all other stands were crammed with ST holders then they wouldn't be able to accommodate.
The "glory hunter" line you're trying to WUM me with really is odd. As mentioned, glory hunting in the football conference is an oxymoron.
Nice to see that you recognized the calling me "stephen" tactic really wasn't working at all.
Also nice to see that popular opinion recognizes that you're a troll. A really, really blatant one.
I stated that those S/T holders affected by the building work in the East where relocated in seats still in the East
Will you be on the pitch at Wembley should we be victorious?
I think the East stand holds more than the West , feel free to correct me if i'm wrong .CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:56 pmOf course there are a few. But my point is correct, the majority of Orient fans in the packed out East Stand on Saturday we’re not season ticket holders.
Of course it makes sense to do the presentation facing the West Stand, it’s the biggest Stand, the most densely populated and the highest priced season tickets. Suggesting it should have been done elsewhere is a bit weird.
Most were. I was given the option to go to the north or west if I wasn't happy with the replacement seats. Possible a few relocated to other stands.
This has gone so far beyond the original scope of the original argument that part of me is tempted to just sack it all in and admit defeat through sheer exhaustion. Why am I expending so much effort defending people who aren’t even me?CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:40 pm I don't even know what you're arguing about anymore in your quest to defend the indefensible.