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Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:51 pm
by faldO
According to the ONS, for the week ending 31st July, and for the 5 weeks prior, more people died from flu / pneumonia than covid-19 as reported on their death certificate.
You can always, sadly, find examples of where younger people have succumbed to covid but in terms of the current threat to the general population it's perhaps not quite as bad as some make out.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:52 pm
by Long slender neck
Don't worry, Russia have a vaccine.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:24 pm
by BIGRON
No daily death numbers avaluable for yesterday
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:47 pm
by kokomO
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
by Thor
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:34 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Ironically, in trying to prioritise the economy over lives and locking down too late, it’s meant that we’ve had to come out of lockdown slower than most countries and f*cked ourselves economically. Incompetence at the highest level.
And with Brexit round the corner, the future doesn’t look much brighter.
But it won’t be the ceos, politicians and Bankers affected. I can see child poverty rising to crazy levels and scenes in this country that you’d expect of a third world country in the coming years.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:42 am
by Disoriented
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:34 am
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Ironically, in trying to prioritise the economy over lives and locking down too late, it’s meant that we’ve had to come out of lockdown slower than most countries and f*cked ourselves economically. Incompetence at the highest level.
And with Brexit round the corner, the future doesn’t look much brighter.
But it won’t be the ceos, politicians and Bankers affected. I can see child poverty rising to crazy levels and scenes in this country that you’d expect of a third world country in the coming years.
Sadly you are correct.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:43 am
by Long slender neck
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Doesnt Covid cause Pneumonia though? (amongst other things)
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:47 am
by Disoriented
Covid causes death.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:57 am
by BoniO
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Up to your old tricks again Thory. 200K deaths per year from flu in the USA normally? You couldn't make it up! Wait a moment, you just have. US CDC numbers below show just how much you're fibbing. It's almost like you have an agenda here and you talk of "playing people"...............
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:59 am
by Long slender neck
So he has an agenda? Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:33 am
by Thor
BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:57 am
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Up to your old tricks again Thory. 200K deaths per year from flu in the USA normally? You couldn't make it up! Wait a moment, you just have. US CDC numbers below show just how much you're fibbing. It's almost like you have an agenda here and you talk of "playing people"...............
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
The third one shows 200k which supports my claim.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:07 pm
by Long slender neck
A tweet from a random individual isnt evidence Thor
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:07 pm
by Long slender neck
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm
by BoniO
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:33 am
BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:57 am
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Up to your old tricks again Thory. 200K deaths per year from flu in the USA normally? You couldn't make it up! Wait a moment, you just have. US CDC numbers below show just how much you're fibbing. It's almost like you have an agenda here and you talk of "playing people"...............
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
The third one shows 200k which supports my claim.
Silly me. I must remember to check random Twitter nutjobs for data rather than the US CDC. What do they know eh?
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm
by Long slender neck
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Played? You were originally saying this was a Chinese weapon.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:11 pm
by Lovejoy
Japan Acted Like the Virus Had Gone. Now It’s Spread Everywhere.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... obal-en-GB
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:14 pm
by Long slender neck
I was referring to the tweet by 'chandler' as that is the third tweet which you said backed up your claim.
Looking at the graph. Yeah pneumonia deaths are a bit lower, but your numbers still look way off.
Fact is, there are excess deaths across the world. The threat from covid is real.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:16 pm
by BoniO
That flu line would appear to show an expected higher number in Winter with a gradual tail off into Spring/Summer. It would be interesting to compare it to last years graph when there was no covid.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:20 pm
by NuneatonO's
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:07 pm
A tweet from a random individual isnt evidence Thor
Not so much a random individual PW, it's
Amanda House, Director of Video & Deputy Political Editor, of Breitbart News.
Breitbart News - the 'Far-right' (some may say 'Alt-right) Voice of U.S. Politics; lest we forget, also supportive of a certain Monsieur Farage and Pro-Brexit.
Their 'previous' for spouting lies, utter BS and unsubstantiated drivel is quite simple for anyone to find.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:45 pm
by BoniO
In summary, Thory ignores US CDC's data on Flu deaths and trumpets some outright lies - from well known far right-wing nutjobs (the 200K deaths claim per annum is around 5 - 6 times the actual average amount)
Funny how he always seems to be reading these types of people........
I'd give up if I were you Thory. You're not very good at this.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:19 pm
by faldO
Haven't read the US data and not really that interested...
ONS data for the past 5 or so weeks show more people died in England and Wales with flu/pneumonia mentioned on death certificates than covid-19. Even if both pneumonia AND covid were mentioned on the death certificate the number of flu deaths is still higher.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:22 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:34 am
Thor wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:06 am
Its interesting that they have not released the flu or pneumonia figures all the way through this crisis. The USA did and normally 200k died of it and this year only 20k died. I'd bet that we have done the same here as well. We are being played and people need to wake up.
More Britons have been killed by flu than coronavirus for seven weeks
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e-masthead
Ironically, in trying to prioritise the economy over lives and locking down too late, it’s meant that we’ve had to come out of lockdown slower than most countries and f*cked ourselves economically. Incompetence at the highest level.
And with Brexit round the corner, the future doesn’t look much brighter.
But it won’t be the ceos, politicians and Bankers affected. I can see child poverty rising to crazy levels and scenes in this country that you’d expect of a third world country in the coming years.
Agreed.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:33 pm
by BoniO
faldO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:19 pm
Haven't read the US data and not really that interested...
ONS data for the past 5 or so weeks show more people died in England and Wales with flu/pneumonia mentioned on death certificates than covid-19. Even if both pneumonia AND covid were mentioned on the death certificate the number of flu deaths is still higher.
Thanks for that.
The number of infections in the UK is gradually increasing and deaths will almost inevitably rise a week or two later due to this. Whether the deaths from covid will once again exceed deaths from flu/pneumonia is an unknown at present. However, a trend showing an increase in infections cannot be good news can it.
Re: Coronavirus
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:33 pm
by Long slender neck
BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:45 pm
Funny how he always seems to be reading these types of people........
This could be the fault of social media, it radicalises people because you start off reading one tweet, watching one video then afterwards guess what its algorithms 'recommend' you watch/read next?
