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Don't think ready access to teh front bench gets you much when you are the opposition.Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:20 am Rumours (basically, hacks posting on Twitter) abound that Labour is up the creek at the moment in terms of finances. Reserves now down to just one month’s payroll. Lost members' subscriptions and costs of dealing with anti-Semitism cases are taking their toll. Voluntary severance is being offered to all NEC-funded staff. Allegedly.
You've changed.Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:05 pm Have they kicked that Ken Loach out yet? The sooner his sort are removed, the better.
Alternatively they may just disagree with Duffield and consider that her views are not in line with Labour "values".
It's hard to tell what values Labour has these days so I can't really answer that question. Besides I understand there is a bit more to it than just liking a single tweet.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:40 am As far as I can tell she liked a tweet by a gay man who said he disliked the term queer. Why is that not in line with Labour values?
Plenty of Tory plants these days. Or is that Tory Planks. Trouble is these Tory plants are up against Labour weeds so they look better than they are.
What is there to object to? Surely people can call themselves anything they want. What business is it of an MP to attempt to control language and interfere in the identity issues of some people?Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:36 pm By many accounts, this bloke is a bit of a wrongun. However, in this instance, his tweet was objecting to the term "Queer" being supposedly reclaimed by other men who are heterosexual but identify as women.
In the past she has also shown support for actual women who have voiced concerns about men being able to simply identify as women, as if that's no big thing. And that even so much as a raised eyebrow at this notion is 'hateful' and 'transphobic' because it hurts their feelings.
She's basically a fascist.
It’s not what she said but it’s the way she said it . She could have still called him a lier but in a roundabout way. Believe it or not apparently they have a code of conduct.Anyway that’s the way I understood it this morning listening to the radioComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:49 am Dawn Butler calls Boris Johnson a liar and is asked to leave the House of Commons.
So the person calling out the lies is chucked out, but the person who's lying, is allowed to stay and carry on lying. ???
Fair enough. Would this rule equally apply if people wish to assume all other forms of identity?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:52 pmWhat is there to object to? Surely people can call themselves anything they want. What business is it of an MP to attempt to control language and interfere in the identity issues of some people?Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:36 pm By many accounts, this bloke is a bit of a wrongun. However, in this instance, his tweet was objecting to the term "Queer" being supposedly reclaimed by other men who are heterosexual but identify as women.
In the past she has also shown support for actual women who have voiced concerns about men being able to simply identify as women, as if that's no big thing. And that even so much as a raised eyebrow at this notion is 'hateful' and 'transphobic' because it hurts their feelings.
She's basically a fascist.
An example would be useful but I think you will find that in a society of individuals most people form their own identity anyway.Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:43 pmFair enough. Would this rule equally apply if people wish to assume all other forms of identity?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:52 pmWhat is there to object to? Surely people can call themselves anything they want. What business is it of an MP to attempt to control language and interfere in the identity issues of some people?Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:36 pm By many accounts, this bloke is a bit of a wrongun. However, in this instance, his tweet was objecting to the term "Queer" being supposedly reclaimed by other men who are heterosexual but identify as women.
In the past she has also shown support for actual women who have voiced concerns about men being able to simply identify as women, as if that's no big thing. And that even so much as a raised eyebrow at this notion is 'hateful' and 'transphobic' because it hurts their feelings.
She's basically a fascist.
No, you can’t identify as tall or non-ginger. Sorry.Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:43 pmFair enough. Would this rule equally apply if people wish to assume all other forms of identity?Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:52 pmWhat is there to object to? Surely people can call themselves anything they want. What business is it of an MP to attempt to control language and interfere in the identity issues of some people?Dunners wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:36 pm By many accounts, this bloke is a bit of a wrongun. However, in this instance, his tweet was objecting to the term "Queer" being supposedly reclaimed by other men who are heterosexual but identify as women.
In the past she has also shown support for actual women who have voiced concerns about men being able to simply identify as women, as if that's no big thing. And that even so much as a raised eyebrow at this notion is 'hateful' and 'transphobic' because it hurts their feelings.
She's basically a fascist.
I don’t think it’s the 1% rise as such, more that they’ve broken their election pledge. Voters are now unsure if they can trust the tories after that.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:03 pm What have the Tories done these last few weeks that has struck people as worse than anything from the last 18 months? After everything that's happened is it really the NI rise that's hurt them?
As soon as people have to pay for stuff they bulk. Just our selfish electorate showing their true colours again…Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:03 pm What have the Tories done these last few weeks that has struck people as worse than anything from the last 18 months? After everything that's happened is it really the NI rise that's hurt them?