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My agenda is the same as every civilised person in the world. An end to the Genocide , a return to peace , and punishment in an international court for those who deserve it. What’s yours ?Frogger wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:04 pmErr no, I’m saying that the terrorist group you sympathise with is telling you lies, but don’t let that get in the way of your agenda.
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Which definition of genocide are you using? The one used by the ICJ - in which case Israel has no current case of genocide to answer - or the new one being proposed by the likes of South Africa and Ireland because the generally accepted one isn't broad enough to cover those they don't like?
It’s a little sad when you are trying to find the least offensive definition of the word. You choose. The number of deaths will remain the samefaldO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:01 pmWhich definition of genocide are you using? The one used by the ICJ - in which case Israel has no current case of genocide to answer - or the new one being proposed by the likes of South Africa and Ireland because the generally accepted one isn't broad enough to cover those they don't like?
I'm curious as to why you suppose genocide is being perpetrated by Israel. The ICJ havent said so and the term has a legal definition. I couldn't care less whether the definition is offensive or not.George M wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:56 pmIt’s a little sad when you are trying to find the least offensive definition of the word. You choose. The number of deaths will remain the samefaldO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:01 pmWhich definition of genocide are you using? The one used by the ICJ - in which case Israel has no current case of genocide to answer - or the new one being proposed by the likes of South Africa and Ireland because the generally accepted one isn't broad enough to cover those they don't like?
Stop wasting my time on people who don’t have all the facts and just spurt out rubbishGeorge M wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:33 amMy agenda is the same as every civilised person in the world. An end to the Genocide , a return to peace , and punishment in an international court for those who deserve it. What’s yours ?
Hop off to whatever stone you were hiding under frogger.Frogger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:16 pmStop wasting my time on people who don’t have all the facts and just spurt out rubbish
About as shakey as your beliefs. The fact that you believe the law will save Israel from being called anything worse than naughty probably saysfaldO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 5:59 pmI'm curious as to why you suppose genocide is being perpetrated by Israel. The ICJ havent said so and the term has a legal definition. I couldn't care less whether the definition is offensive or not.George M wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:56 pmIt’s a little sad when you are trying to find the least offensive definition of the word. You choose. The number of deaths will remain the samefaldO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:01 pm
Which definition of genocide are you using? The one used by the ICJ - in which case Israel has no current case of genocide to answer - or the new one being proposed by the likes of South Africa and Ireland because the generally accepted one isn't broad enough to cover those they don't like?
If it's necessary to change the definition, as South Africa and Ireland want to do, so as to fit a narrative, I'd suggest the attempts to pin "genocide" on Israel under the current definition (the one used by the ICJ for example) are on shakey ground.
You mean that the massacre of innocents depends on whether you are an anti-Semite or not. As you clearly are and support known terrorist organisations, your views on this could be determined as slightly skewed. None of this would have happened without October 7th and the follow-up wanton murder of innocent hostages. Of course, for such a bigoted and blinkered individual as you, Jewish lives do not matter or have the same value as your terrorist friends whose attitudes towards women, equality and homosexuality are somewhat repressive. But go ahead with your poisonous rhetoric or call out Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinian fanatics for what they are - murderous ruffians.BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:20 pmBye. Missing you already.
Another loony-tunes Israel supporter who doesn't give a flying f**k about the massacre of innocents. Quotes a newspaper that is knowingly quoting a right wing Islamophobic "think tank" as the truth. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I can't speak for anyone other than myself but do I believe everything that Hamas says? Well, of course not. No more than I believe everything that Israel says. But it's fact that tens of thousands of innocent people, many of them children, have been slaughtered in Gaza, and Lebanon is now receiving similar treatment. The UN has supported the data as have other reliable sources. But it makes no real difference to the crime whether Israel has massacred 20,000, 30,000 or 40,000 people. They are guilty of crimes against Humanity in each case and they need to be stopped.
Out of interest. Why do you think the Israelis are now depriving Gazans of water?FrankOFile wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:10 amYou mean that the massacre of innocents depends on whether you are an anti-Semite or not. As you clearly are and support known terrorist organisations, your views on this could be determined as slightly skewed. None of this would have happened without October 7th and the follow-up wanton murder of innocent hostages. Of course, for such a bigoted and blinkered individual as you, Jewish lives do not matter or have the same value as your terrorist friends whose attitudes towards women, equality and homosexuality are somewhat repressive. But go ahead with your poisonous rhetoric or call out Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinian fanatics for what they are - murderous ruffians.BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:20 pmBye. Missing you already.
Another loony-tunes Israel supporter who doesn't give a flying f**k about the massacre of innocents. Quotes a newspaper that is knowingly quoting a right wing Islamophobic "think tank" as the truth. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I can't speak for anyone other than myself but do I believe everything that Hamas says? Well, of course not. No more than I believe everything that Israel says. But it's fact that tens of thousands of innocent people, many of them children, have been slaughtered in Gaza, and Lebanon is now receiving similar treatment. The UN has supported the data as have other reliable sources. But it makes no real difference to the crime whether Israel has massacred 20,000, 30,000 or 40,000 people. They are guilty of crimes against Humanity in each case and they need to be stopped.
They are guilty of crimes against humanity in each case and they need to be stopped, much like your hard-left Stalinist mates and Nazi types. They must be so proud of you being the useful bad actor you are.
Probably want their innocent hostages back and the Gazans to renounce terror.Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:14 amOut of interest. Why do you think the Israelis are now depriving Gazans of water?FrankOFile wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 9:10 amYou mean that the massacre of innocents depends on whether you are an anti-Semite or not. As you clearly are and support known terrorist organisations, your views on this could be determined as slightly skewed. None of this would have happened without October 7th and the follow-up wanton murder of innocent hostages. Of course, for such a bigoted and blinkered individual as you, Jewish lives do not matter or have the same value as your terrorist friends whose attitudes towards women, equality and homosexuality are somewhat repressive. But go ahead with your poisonous rhetoric or call out Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinian fanatics for what they are - murderous ruffians.BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:20 pm
Bye. Missing you already.
Another loony-tunes Israel supporter who doesn't give a flying f**k about the massacre of innocents. Quotes a newspaper that is knowingly quoting a right wing Islamophobic "think tank" as the truth. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I can't speak for anyone other than myself but do I believe everything that Hamas says? Well, of course not. No more than I believe everything that Israel says. But it's fact that tens of thousands of innocent people, many of them children, have been slaughtered in Gaza, and Lebanon is now receiving similar treatment. The UN has supported the data as have other reliable sources. But it makes no real difference to the crime whether Israel has massacred 20,000, 30,000 or 40,000 people. They are guilty of crimes against Humanity in each case and they need to be stopped.
They are guilty of crimes against humanity in each case and they need to be stopped, much like your hard-left Stalinist mates and Nazi types. They must be so proud of you being the useful bad actor you are.
That’s why I said that you forgot to mention. M stands for MuslimFrankOFile wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:38 amWhere did I say that?
Does M stand for moron by the way?
The holocaust the Nazis created was genocide, what is Israel are doing is not. I’m not going to go down the name calling route which seems to be the trend on these threads.
Nice try. You are trying to defend the indefensible and by doing so you are digging yourself into a deeper hole. Civilised humans do not compare atrocities as you are doing.This thread is about Israel and its government’s disgusting and inhumane behaviour. You defending that behaviour makes you equally inhumaneFrogger wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:10 pmThe holocaust the Nazis created was genocide, what is Israel are doing is not. I’m not going to go down the name calling route which seems to be the trend on these threads.
You are comparing oranges to apples to put it nicely.
I don’t recall a so called genocide attempt where they notify the enemy of the planned attack. Pretty sure the allied forces didn’t warn Hitler and his officers when they bombed the living daylights out of Dresden, Munich or Berlin killing thousands or is that genocide too?
The terrorist group that the Israeli forces are attacking ( not the civilians) use the innocent people as human shields, it is known by all that this is the case. The terrorist groups that hide behind the innocent want this to continue, they will be only to happy to see you support them and their terrible plight. Why not pressurise Hamas to release the hostages they took? It would stop tomorrow if they did.
Look at who else supports these poor terrorists. Iran and their corrupt evil dictatorship. Their human rights are appalling but you are not concerned by them? Why? They kill hundreds of innocent people on a regular basis, for being a woman, or being gay or not having their head covered. What wonderful people they are.
Look around and see who is the real problem. It is not Israel.
How ignorant you are. I have no words if that’s really what you think.George M wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:20 pmNice try. You are trying to defend the indefensible and by doing so you are digging yourself into a deeper hole. Civilised humans do not compare atrocities as you are doing.This thread is about Israel and its government’s disgusting and inhumane behaviour. You defending that behaviour makes you equally inhumaneFrogger wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:10 pmThe holocaust the Nazis created was genocide, what is Israel are doing is not. I’m not going to go down the name calling route which seems to be the trend on these threads.
You are comparing oranges to apples to put it nicely.
I don’t recall a so called genocide attempt where they notify the enemy of the planned attack. Pretty sure the allied forces didn’t warn Hitler and his officers when they bombed the living daylights out of Dresden, Munich or Berlin killing thousands or is that genocide too?
The terrorist group that the Israeli forces are attacking ( not the civilians) use the innocent people as human shields, it is known by all that this is the case. The terrorist groups that hide behind the innocent want this to continue, they will be only to happy to see you support them and their terrible plight. Why not pressurise Hamas to release the hostages they took? It would stop tomorrow if they did.
Look at who else supports these poor terrorists. Iran and their corrupt evil dictatorship. Their human rights are appalling but you are not concerned by them? Why? They kill hundreds of innocent people on a regular basis, for being a woman, or being gay or not having their head covered. What wonderful people they are.
Look around and see who is the real problem. It is not Israel.
Sounds good to me. Would that stop Netanyahu continuing the massacre - doubtful. He doesn’t want the hostages freed.