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Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:02 pm
by Jeremy Bentham
e15O wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:04 am
Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:01 pm
But not really 100% as you’ve not bolded the key final part. Based on your allusions to Zionist-controlled media and the Israel lobby, you’re a daft antisemite who thinks Zionism is Netanyahu. Zionism is the right to self determination, something most races and ethnicities outside of the MENA region and Latin America have. Being anti-Zionist would mean removing all states with a religious element so I assume you feel as strongly about Saudi Arabia, the Vatican and the UK?
Did you actually read the bit in bold? I'll repeat it for you so you're clear.
"Jews can determine what they like. But it shouldn’t come at the cost of another people." Zionism is based on stealing another people's land. No ethnic group has a right to somebody else's land.
To make things worse, Zionism actually depended on antisemitism to advance the project and was always doomed to failure, there will never be peace in Israel without a single democratic state where ALL citizens are treated as equal from the river to the sea.
More detail here
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/
P.S. I am the son of a Holocaust survivor and my mother was descended from Sephardic Jews so, although I don't identify as a Jew, my DNA certainly is majority Jewish and I have marched many times in solidarity with the Jewish Bloc in London.
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:10 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
I’ve lost track of who’s saying what now because someone broke the quote function
Re: Israel
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:16 pm
by Hoover Attack
Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:02 pm
e15O wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:04 am
Jeremy Bentham wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:01 pm
But not really 100% as you’ve not bolded the key final part. Based on your allusions to Zionist-controlled media and the Israel lobby, you’re a daft antisemite who thinks Zionism is Netanyahu. Zionism is the right to self determination, something most races and ethnicities outside of the MENA region and Latin America have. Being anti-Zionist would mean removing all states with a religious element so I assume you feel as strongly about Saudi Arabia, the Vatican and the UK?
Did you actually read the bit in bold? I'll repeat it for you so you're clear.
"Jews can determine what they like. But it shouldn’t come at the cost of another people." Zionism is based on stealing another people's land. No ethnic group has a right to somebody else's land.
To make things worse, Zionism actually depended on antisemitism to advance the project and was always doomed to failure, there will never be peace in Israel without a single democratic state where ALL citizens are treated as equal from the river to the sea.
More detail here
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/resource/zionism/
P.S. I am the son of a Holocaust survivor and my mother was descended from Sephardic Jews so, although I don't identify as a Jew, my DNA certainly is majority Jewish and I have marched many times in solidarity with the Jewish Bloc in London.
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:10 pm
I’ve lost track of who’s saying what now because someone broke the quote function
Proper confusing, ain’t it?