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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:21 am

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:51 am Labour has now polled its lowest ever vote share as per yougov.

Con 24% +2
Brexit 23% +1
Libs 20% +1
Lab 18% -2

When you have a party that cannot tell it’s arse from its elbow it’s not really surprising when these figures are presented. They are all at see with Brexit, they have a massive anti-semitisism problem, they want to whack home owners with a massive tax increase, they want to whack landlords hard, and they want to tax every gift you leave your children.

The people are speaking and Labour is not listening. Corbyn is in trouble and I think his time is coming to an end.

4 years now people have been saying that. No one believes it mate.

And the ones saying it are his political enemies, rent a gobs and the billionaire owned media.

Corbyns lack of decisiveness and clarity is becoming legendary. He has turned sitting on the fence and doing nothing into an art form.

At first I thought he was just playing it smart. Keeping quiet whilst the Tories ripped themselves apart. Ready to move in for the kill. Now I realise it’s because the guy is clueless. Him and Boris have at least that in common. People think they are clever until they open their mouth.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:11 am Corbyns lack of decisiveness and clarity is becoming legendary. He has turned sitting on the fence and doing nothing into an art form.

At first I thought he was just playing it smart. Keeping quiet whilst the Tories ripped themselves apart. Ready to move in for the kill. Now I realise it’s because the guy is clueless. Him and Boris have at least that in common. People think they are clever until they open their mouth.

You confuse a lack of decisiveness with the need to balance the political forces within the party before embarking on any course of action.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:43 am Once Brexit is out of the way, surely the Brexit party will evaporate?

Nope they intend to stick around and disrupt the two party dominance. If the policies are popular ones then I can see them doing rather well. The policies are the key here though.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:45 am

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:21 am

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:51 am Labour has now polled its lowest ever vote share as per yougov.

Con 24% +2
Brexit 23% +1
Libs 20% +1
Lab 18% -2

When you have a party that cannot tell it’s arse from its elbow it’s not really surprising when these figures are presented. They are all at see with Brexit, they have a massive anti-semitisism problem, they want to whack home owners with a massive tax increase, they want to whack landlords hard, and they want to tax every gift you leave your children.

The people are speaking and Labour is not listening. Corbyn is in trouble and I think his time is coming to an end.

4 years now people have been saying that. No one believes it mate.

And the ones saying it are his political enemies, rent a gobs and the billionaire owned media.

Usual response from you. YouGov dont go up to people and say who you voting for? Oh Labour guess we'd better ignore that one.

These are real people being asked not some BBC hand pick left wing biased audience.

Please come up with a better argument next time as I'm disappointed by your weak retort.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:11 am Corbyns lack of decisiveness and clarity is becoming legendary. He has turned sitting on the fence and doing nothing into an art form.

At first I thought he was just playing it smart. Keeping quiet whilst the Tories ripped themselves apart. Ready to move in for the kill. Now I realise it’s because the guy is clueless. Him and Boris have at least that in common. People think they are clever until they open their mouth.

He is indeed clueless and I've being telling people for a very long time as well. I'm surprised it's taken the people this long to work him out.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:28 am

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:11 am Corbyns lack of decisiveness and clarity is becoming legendary. He has turned sitting on the fence and doing nothing into an art form.

At first I thought he was just playing it smart. Keeping quiet whilst the Tories ripped themselves apart. Ready to move in for the kill. Now I realise it’s because the guy is clueless. Him and Boris have at least that in common. People think they are clever until they open their mouth.

You confuse a lack of decisiveness with the need to balance the political forces within the party before embarking on any course of action.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:19 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:45 am

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:21 am

4 years now people have been saying that. No one believes it mate.

And the ones saying it are his political enemies, rent a gobs and the billionaire owned media.

Usual response from you. YouGov dont go up to people and say who you voting for? Oh Labour guess we'd better ignore that one.

These are real people being asked not some BBC hand pick left wing biased audience.

Please come up with a better argument next time as I'm disappointed by your weak retort.

I wasn't presenting an argument. I was merely making an observation. Like I would waste my time arguing with a thick IMBECILE like you

I've given up contributing to the politics threads on here (aside from this contribution, obviously). We currently have an electorate who think it's a good idea that we should be represented by a 71yo virgin, an ex-lads mag editor, an ex member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and somebody called Annunziata.

jamespevans wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:39 pm I've given up contributing to the politics threads on here (aside from this contribution, obviously). We currently have an electorate who think it's a good idea that we should be represented by a 71yo virgin, an ex-lads mag editor, an ex member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and somebody called Annunziata.

Embrace the diversity.

Flying Hippo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:32 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:39 pm I've given up contributing to the politics threads on here (aside from this contribution, obviously). We currently have an electorate who think it's a good idea that we should be represented by a 71yo virgin, an ex-lads mag editor, an ex member of the Revolutionary Communist Party and somebody called Annunziata.

Embrace the diversity.

If that's your definition of diversity we are in big trouble.

Is the cute little one with the big hair and glasses called annunziata?

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:41 pm Is the cute little one with the big hair and glasses called annunziata?

Offensive post, please edit it to more appropriate words.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:46 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:41 pm Is the cute little one with the big hair and glasses called annunziata?

Offensive post, please edit it to more appropriate words.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:46 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:41 pm Is the cute little one with the big hair and glasses called Ann?

Offensive post, please edit it to more appropriate words.

Done

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:26 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:46 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:41 pm Is the cute little one with the big hair and glasses called Ann?

Offensive post, please edit it to more appropriate words.

Done

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:17 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:43 am Once Brexit is out of the way, surely the Brexit party will evaporate?

Nope they intend to stick around and disrupt the two party dominance. If the policies are popular ones then I can see them doing rather well. The policies are the key here though.

The Brexit Party have policies???

I don't think they have any yet!! I had to check before posting, apparently they had a rally in the Midlands at the weekend where over 5,000 attended, but alas the bbc report did not lay out any policies of the party.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:46 pm I don't think they have any yet!! I had to check before posting, apparently they had a rally in the Midlands at the weekend where over 5,000 attended, but alas the bbc report did not lay out any policies of the party.

They don't need policies. Just not being Labour or Conservative is good enough for most people.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:20 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:46 pm I don't think they have any yet!! I had to check before posting, apparently they had a rally in the Midlands at the weekend where over 5,000 attended, but alas the bbc report did not lay out any policies of the party.

They don't need policies. Just not being Labour or Conservative is good enough for most people.

Well that statement is clearly a load of old rubbish because they don't get more than 50% of the vote. Therefore, it's not good enough for most people. Is it?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:45 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:20 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:46 pm I don't think they have any yet!! I had to check before posting, apparently they had a rally in the Midlands at the weekend where over 5,000 attended, but alas the bbc report did not lay out any policies of the party.

They don't need policies. Just not being Labour or Conservative is good enough for most people.

Well that statement is clearly a load of old rubbish because they don't get more than 50% of the vote. Therefore, it's not good enough for most people. Is it?

Correct Max, not good enough for most people but good enough to top Labour.

Corbyn is Labour’s greatest handicap.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:00 pm Corbyn is Labour’s greatest handicap.

With a decent leader Labour would be strolling it. Wiping the floor with the in-fighting Tories. As it is Corbyn is the Tories get-out-of-jail card. But change will happen and a new leader will emerge. I’m still hopeful David Milliband will re-enter the fray. He’d get my vote.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:17 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:00 pm Corbyn is Labour’s greatest handicap.

I’m still hopeful David Milliband will re-enter the fray. He’d get my vote.

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I don’t suppose they actually need policies, seeing as a) the sole purpose of the Brexit Party is simply to allow Farrago and his pals back on to the EU expenses train and a lovely tax-free £200k a year, and
b) seeing as they’re not actually in government they have absolutely zero effect on the EU negotiations.

How does that frog-faced chancer keep doing this each time? I know the British electorate are generally as thick as pig s**t but it still amazes me.