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Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:15 pm
by George M
Hilarious news. The genocidal Israeli government telling the Dutch they should be ashamed by their behaviour. If they Leave the safety of their bullying country not sure what they expected

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:38 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
You think the football fans had it coming George?

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:40 pm
by Proposition Joe
If the reports that some of them were singing "let's finish the Arabs" are true, then yeah, kinda.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:42 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Not seen that, where was this reported?

Bit unfair for all of them to be fair game though, I wouldn’t want to be judged by the actions of the South Stand corner mob

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:48 pm
by Mistadobalina
Proposition Joe wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:40 pm If the reports that some of them were singing "let's finish the Arabs" are true, then yeah, kinda.
Also booed the minutes silence for the people that died in Valencia from the floods. Sounds like a sh*t show all round.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:51 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
If shithouse chanting/booing at football was the bar for mobs roaming the streets and stamping on people’s heads then we’d have riots every weekend in this country

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:59 pm
by George M
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:38 pm You think the football fans had it coming George?
Well by all accounts there are conflicting reports on who is to blame. But no , I have no sympathy

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:01 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
George M wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:59 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:38 pm You think the football fans had it coming George?
Well by all accounts there are conflicting reports on who is to blame. But no , I have no sympathy
That’s a shame, I thought you condemned all violence

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:05 pm
by George M
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:01 pm
George M wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:59 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:38 pm You think the football fans had it coming George?
Well by all accounts there are conflicting reports on who is to blame. But no , I have no sympathy
That’s a shame, I thought you condemned all violence
Changed my mind. Not sure that should still be allowed to compete anyway. Russian teams can’t. Doesn’t seem to be a huge difference

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:07 pm
by George M
But you missed my main point. The nerve of the Israeli government takes some beating

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:07 pm
by Dunners
Sounds like Maccabi Tel Aviv's quota of idiot fans behaved like idiot fans, which does seem to have included at least one incident where a group were chanting anti-Arab slogans and tore down a Palestinian flag. And this resulted in organised groups of Muslim immigrants to Amsterdam hunting down and violently attacking anyone they thought may be Jewish.

There's conflicting reports circulating, so it's impossible to know what to believe right now, but some of the attacks (if true) looked to be quite serious. Obviously, this will now just play into the hands of Geert Wilders and his supporters. And the behaviour of the idiot fans will also play into the hands of the cranks.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:09 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Thanks for the timeline

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:52 pm
by MalvoliO
George M wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:05 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:01 pm
George M wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:59 pm

Well by all accounts there are conflicting reports on who is to blame. But no , I have no sympathy
That’s a shame, I thought you condemned all violence
Changed my mind. Not sure that should still be allowed to compete anyway. Russian teams can’t. Doesn’t seem to be a huge difference

George M there once again plumbing the depths of fascist rhetoric using the callous and ignorant phrase "I have no sympathy" = George M does not care for Israelis (Jews) being beaten up (attempted murder) once again in the streets of Europe en masse having simply travelled to a "safe" Western European country to watch a football match.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:02 pm
by Hoover Attack
MalvoliO wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:52 pm
George M wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:05 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:01 pm

That’s a shame, I thought you condemned all violence
Changed my mind. Not sure that should still be allowed to compete anyway. Russian teams can’t. Doesn’t seem to be a huge difference

George M there once again plumbing the depths of fascist rhetoric using the callous and ignorant phrase "I have no sympathy" = George M does not care for Israelis (Jews) being beaten up (attempted murder) once again in the streets of Europe en masse having simply travelled to a "safe" Western European country to watch a football match.
You’ve seen the reports of what the fans were getting up to, right?

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:33 pm
by George M
MalvoliO wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:52 pm
George M wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:05 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:01 pm

That’s a shame, I thought you condemned all violence
Changed my mind. Not sure that should still be allowed to compete anyway. Russian teams can’t. Doesn’t seem to be a huge difference

George M there once again plumbing the depths of fascist rhetoric using the callous and ignorant phrase "I have no sympathy" = George M does not care for Israelis (Jews) being beaten up (attempted murder) once again in the streets of Europe en masse having simply travelled to a "safe" Western European country to watch a football match.
Didn’t really imply any of that but nice try

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:38 pm
by George M
I don’t condone violence at sporting events. And whilst their government is committing unopposed genocide , I doubt you could call anywhere safe in the West currently. Just my fascist opinion of course

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:48 pm
by George M
And as you hinted at it , let’s not confuse antisemitism with the abhorrence of genocide. They are not the same.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:37 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Dunners wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 1:07 pm Sounds like Maccabi Tel Aviv's quota of idiot fans behaved like idiot fans, which does seem to have included at least one incident where a group were chanting anti-Arab slogans and tore down a Palestinian flag. And this resulted in organised groups of Muslim immigrants to Amsterdam hunting down and violently attacking anyone they thought may be Jewish.

There's conflicting reports circulating, so it's impossible to know what to believe right now, but some of the attacks (if true) looked to be quite serious. Obviously, this will now just play into the hands of Geert Wilders and his supporters. And the behaviour of the idiot fans will also play into the hands of the cranks.
That’s exactly what happened.

I’m in the city now and went to the game last night. Most of the sh*t last night was against people not wearing colours, it was targetted anti semitism.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:40 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
So they were targeting people just because they looked or sounded Jewish presumably?

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:45 pm
by MalvoliO
And George M is just fine and dandy with that.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:46 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:40 pm So they were targeting people just because they looked or sounded Jewish presumably?
Yeah, well, it was a small group of people doing it.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:48 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Over 60 have been arrested, it’s not the OTF numbers but still a fairly large mob.

And that’s just the ones who have been nicked

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:55 pm
by George M
MalvoliO wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:45 pm And George M is just fine and dandy with that.
Awful night but in case you have forgotten , the Israeli government are targeting those that look and sound like Arabs.

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:06 pm
by BiggsyMalone
Currywurst and Chips wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:48 pm Over 60 have been arrested, it’s not the OTF numbers but still a fairly large mob.

And that’s just the ones who have been nicked
There’s varying reports on numbers. But fair, small number was probably unsderstating it

Re: Israel

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:14 pm
by BoniO
MalvoliO wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:45 pm And George M is just fine and dandy with that.
Well you’re fine and dandy with the Israeli government massacring innocent men, women and children so why should anyone care what you think.