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Attlee - probably the best PM this country ever had

He's just untouchable. It just happens that way sometimes.

He’s actually a genius isn’t he?

Call him stupid all you want but the guy’s been elected Mayor of London twice - most diverse place in the UK and votes predominantly Labour - got a thumping election win with a simple Get Brexit Done slogan, admittedly against a terrible LOTO but has seemingly fought off his replacement with relative ease.

All despite being pretty incompetent at his job and an awkward communicator

And the more the left call out his bumbling idiot persona, the more it plays into his hands

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 2:08 pm

Boris Johnson: 0%
Keir Stamer: 0%
Naive: 70%

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 2:08 pm

Boris Johnson: 0%
Keir Stamer: 0%
Naive: 70%

Is Naive the Irish Girl ?

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:46 pm He’s actually a genius isn’t he?

Call him stupid all you want but the guy’s been elected Mayor of London twice - most diverse place in the UK and votes predominantly Labour - got a thumping election win with a simple Get Brexit Done slogan, admittedly against a terrible LOTO but has seemingly fought off his replacement with relative ease.

All despite being pretty incompetent at his job and an awkward communicator

And the more the left call out his bumbling idiot persona, the more it plays into his hands

Says more about the electorate than him

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:46 pm He’s actually a genius isn’t he?

Call him stupid all you want but the guy’s been elected Mayor of London twice - most diverse place in the UK and votes predominantly Labour - got a thumping election win with a simple Get Brexit Done slogan, admittedly against a terrible LOTO but has seemingly fought off his replacement with relative ease.

All despite being pretty incompetent at his job and an awkward communicator

And the more the left call out his bumbling idiot persona, the more it plays into his hands

Of course he’s not a genius. Nor is he stupid, either.

So if the left are to blame for his success by calling him out, what should they do? Let him go about his business unchallenged?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:33 am

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 am

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 2:08 pm

Boris Johnson: 0%
Keir Stamer: 0%
Naive: 70%

Is Naive the Irish Girl ?

Yes it means guillible one

The day after Starmer was elected Leader, i left all associations with the Labour Party.

Starmer is a disaster as a leader. He was ultra pro remain, and to elect such a man just after Brexit happened was plain silly . He has the personality of a plank of wood, he is as inspirational as a slab of butter, and he's completely ruled by the Israel lobby, hence the first thing he actually did, was write a grovelling letter to the Board of Deputies, literally minutes after the leadership result
He should stand down, but he wont. He'll soldier on until he loses the next election, then resign the following day, and there will be another 5 years of Tory sleaze, & corruption .
If he loses Hartlepool this week, he must go....even Corbyn won Hartlepool twice during his tenure

Have to admire your ability to shoe-horn Israel into the above.

The reasons for Labours inability to cut-through are numerous. Starmer's merely part of that.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:14 am

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:46 pm He’s actually a genius isn’t he?

Call him stupid all you want but the guy’s been elected Mayor of London twice - most diverse place in the UK and votes predominantly Labour - got a thumping election win with a simple Get Brexit Done slogan, admittedly against a terrible LOTO but has seemingly fought off his replacement with relative ease.

All despite being pretty incompetent at his job and an awkward communicator

And the more the left call out his bumbling idiot persona, the more it plays into his hands

Of course he’s not a genius. Nor is he stupid, either.

So if the left are to blame for his success by calling him out, what should they do? Let him go about his business unchallenged?

Didn’t say the left are to blame but you’ve highlighted his genius

Don’t challenge him = free to do what he likes and win more votes
Call him out = supporters paint the left as crybabies, remoaners, bad losers etc, more votes for him as no-one likes whingers

There’s literally no way Labour can win

It’s almost as if there isn’t a level playing field, isn’t it?

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 12:42 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:14 am

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 3:46 pm He’s actually a genius isn’t he?

Call him stupid all you want but the guy’s been elected Mayor of London twice - most diverse place in the UK and votes predominantly Labour - got a thumping election win with a simple Get Brexit Done slogan, admittedly against a terrible LOTO but has seemingly fought off his replacement with relative ease.

All despite being pretty incompetent at his job and an awkward communicator

And the more the left call out his bumbling idiot persona, the more it plays into his hands

Of course he’s not a genius. Nor is he stupid, either.

So if the left are to blame for his success by calling him out, what should they do? Let him go about his business unchallenged?

Didn’t say the left are to blame but you’ve highlighted his genius

Don’t challenge him = free to do what he likes and win more votes
Call him out = supporters paint the left as crybabies, remoaners, bad losers etc, more votes for him as no-one likes whingers

There’s literally no way Labour can win

The only way they can win is if Johnson's own incompetence and corruption become unpalatable to his party. His popularity and the purge at the end of the last parliament means we're probably ages off from that.

It's incredibly grim for any democracy where blatant corruption and incompetence have no electoral consequences whatsoever, regardless of your politics.

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:39 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:33 am

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 am

Boris Johnson: 0%
Keir Stamer: 0%
Naive: 70%

Is Naive the Irish Girl ?

Yes it means guillible one

Nah
Gullible in Irish is spelt sassenach

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:39 pm

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 12:42 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:14 am

Of course he’s not a genius. Nor is he stupid, either.

So if the left are to blame for his success by calling him out, what should they do? Let him go about his business unchallenged?

Didn’t say the left are to blame but you’ve highlighted his genius

Don’t challenge him = free to do what he likes and win more votes
Call him out = supporters paint the left as crybabies, remoaners, bad losers etc, more votes for him as no-one likes whingers

There’s literally no way Labour can win

The only way they can win is if Johnson's own incompetence and corruption become unpalatable to his party. His popularity and the purge at the end of the last parliament means we're probably ages off from that.

It's incredibly grim for any democracy where blatant corruption and incompetence have no electoral consequences whatsoever, regardless of your politics.

Someone else will come in to replace BoJo. The left still won’t win.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:46 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:39 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:33 am


Is Naive the Irish Girl ?

Yes it means guillible one

Nah
Gullible in Irish is spelt sassenach

You win this is even too stupid for me.

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:56 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:46 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:39 am

Yes it means guillible one

Nah
Gullible in Irish is spelt sassenach

You win this is even too stupid for me.

Nothing that stupid that you or me or anyone else would stuggle to get .
If you cant read or write you might have a point

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:31 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:56 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:46 pm

Nah
Gullible in Irish is spelt sassenach

You win this is even too stupid for me.

Nothing that stupid that you or me or anyone else would stuggle to get .
If you cant read or write you might have a point

Naive means gullible, Nieve is irish name. This convisation is a metaphore for the majoral elections an you, pointless. I only hope you can get some help with your anger issues and i apologise for any distress you are feeling.

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:45 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:31 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 1:56 pm

You win this is even too stupid for me.

Nothing that stupid that you or me or anyone else would stuggle to get .
If you cant read or write you might have a point

Naive means gullible, Nieve is irish name. This convisation is a metaphore for the majoral elections an you, pointless. I only hope you can get some help with your anger issues and i apologise for any distress you are feeling.

Nieve is NOT an IRISH name .

Niamh is an Irish name .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:50 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:45 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:31 pm

Nothing that stupid that you or me or anyone else would stuggle to get .
If you cant read or write you might have a point

Naive means gullible, Nieve is irish name. This convisation is a metaphore for the majoral elections an you, pointless. I only hope you can get some help with your anger issues and i apologise for any distress you are feeling.

Nieve is NOT an IRISH name .

Niamh is an Irish name .

Ok the but i said Naive in the original post. The name is unimportant. I am finished with this feed you have my permission to last word me with some irellivance.

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:13 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:50 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:45 pm

Naive means gullible, Nieve is irish name. This convisation is a metaphore for the majoral elections an you, pointless. I only hope you can get some help with your anger issues and i apologise for any distress you are feeling.

Nieve is NOT an IRISH name .

Niamh is an Irish name .

Ok the but i said Naive in the original post. The name is unimportant. I am finished with this feed you have my permission to last word me with some irellivance.

Thanks i will .

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:20 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:13 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 2:50 pm

Nieve is NOT an IRISH name .

Niamh is an Irish name .

Ok the but i said Naive in the original post. The name is unimportant. I am finished with this feed you have my permission to last word me with some irellivance.

Thanks i will .

Not lol

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:24 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:20 pm

Jobi equals failure wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 3:13 pm

Ok the but i said Naive in the original post. The name is unimportant. I am finished with this feed you have my permission to last word me with some irellivance.

Thanks i will .

Not lol

Are you sure ?