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Over 100 Labour MP’s have called for Williamson to be kicked out the party for good. So max please do tell us that they are all wrong to call for this action. Personally I think the actions of some on here in relation to this is shameful and embarrassing.

Then to top it all steptoe has the lowest approval rating of any opposition leader in history, so just when you think it can’t get any worse, it does. He is a weak leader, he is devoid of ideas or at least any he really wants to share with us.

Embarrassing, taxi for steptoe.

First of all, why do you call corbyn Steptoe? Everytime I see him on PQT he's wearing a smart suit, crisp white shirt and tie, looking smart. You just make yourself look childish and pathetic
Now about Chris Williamson......what did he say, that was antisemitic? Ive gone over that speech many times, and still fail to see whats wrong.
This as most really know, is about trying to get rid of Corbyn, and nothing else
A home affairs committee stated theres no antisemitism in the Labour party a few months back
Most of the Labour mp's that signed that letter, are the usual suspects..right wing neo-liberals who hate Corbyn, plus the usual Labour Friends of Israel lot, who seem to be working for a foreign government, rather than their own country.
Go online and have a look at how many donations Tom Watson has received from wealthy pro Israel supporters...hundreds of thousands of pounds....its all online, and its disgraceful IMO
If you want racism, then look at the Tory parties record on Islamophobia.....Johnson saying Muslim women look like Bank robbers and letterboxes etc......thats the real racist party

I call him steptoe as he looks like him, nothing to do with his suit or tie, just his looks.

When I referred to this incident being embarrassing, amongst other things it was that a senior party member asked for Corbyn to show some leadership. Corbyns view, it was nothing to do with him.

What wonderful leadership.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:01 pm When I referred to this incident being embarrassing, amongst other things it was that a senior party member asked for Corbyn to show some leadership. Corbyns view, it was nothing to do with him.

What wonderful leadership.

What i find weird is that before Jeremey Corbyn became leader he was the only person who opposed ant-semitism.

So you'd prefer him to interfere with the party's established disciplinary procedure? Or you'd prefer him not to?

It's all a bit confusing what people expect of him about this. I thought the problem was that the complainants didn't like political interference in the process, so they were asking for the leader of the party to intervene (presumably so they could complain that the leader was interfering )?

StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:47 pm So you'd prefer him to interfere with the party's established disciplinary procedure? Or you'd prefer him not to?

It's all a bit confusing what people expect of him about this. I thought the problem was that the complainants didn't like political interference in the process, so they were asking for the leader of the party to intervene (presumably so they could complain that the leader was interfering )?

It's almost like they're trying to get young Jeremy regardless of what he does.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:46 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:01 pm When I referred to this incident being embarrassing, amongst other things it was that a senior party member asked for Corbyn to show some leadership. Corbyns view, it was nothing to do with him.

What wonderful leadership.

What i find weird is that before Jeremey Corbyn became leader he was the only person who opposed ant-semitism.

What gets me Max is that as far as politicians go, I don’t much rely on what they say, more what they do. In the case of Corbyn he talks a good story in this area but his actions are woeful. As people say, actions speak louder than words. Or in his case lack of actions speak louder than words.

It’s hard to defend his woeful efforts to erase anti-semitism from the party, not his success but his efforts. Abbott too is a closet racist. They make a good pair.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:50 pm

StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:47 pm So you'd prefer him to interfere with the party's established disciplinary procedure? Or you'd prefer him not to?

It's all a bit confusing what people expect of him about this. I thought the problem was that the complainants didn't like political interference in the process, so they were asking for the leader of the party to intervene (presumably so they could complain that the leader was interfering )?

It's almost like they're trying to get young Jeremy regardless of what he does.

Ah, the old conspiracy theory.

How quaint.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:47 pm So you'd prefer him to interfere with the party's established disciplinary procedure? Or you'd prefer him not to?

It's all a bit confusing what people expect of him about this. I thought the problem was that the complainants didn't like political interference in the process, so they were asking for the leader of the party to intervene (presumably so they could complain that the leader was interfering )?

But he is well within his rights to say he totally disagrees with the decision taken. Not interfering but having an opinion.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:19 pm

StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:47 pm So you'd prefer him to interfere with the party's established disciplinary procedure? Or you'd prefer him not to?

It's all a bit confusing what people expect of him about this. I thought the problem was that the complainants didn't like political interference in the process, so they were asking for the leader of the party to intervene (presumably so they could complain that the leader was interfering )?

But he is well within his rights to say he totally disagrees with the decision taken. Not interfering but having an opinion.

You have to therefore conclude that he agrees with the rent boy afficionado and class A using narcissist, Keith Vaz.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:00 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:50 pm

StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:47 pm So you'd prefer him to interfere with the party's established disciplinary procedure? Or you'd prefer him not to?

It's all a bit confusing what people expect of him about this. I thought the problem was that the complainants didn't like political interference in the process, so they were asking for the leader of the party to intervene (presumably so they could complain that the leader was interfering )?

It's almost like they're trying to get young Jeremy regardless of what he does.

Ah, the old conspiracy theory.

How quaint.

So you are happy to believe there is no organised campaign to remove JC. Fine. Have it your way.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:07 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:00 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:50 pm

It's almost like they're trying to get young Jeremy regardless of what he does.

Ah, the old conspiracy theory.

How quaint.

So you are happy to believe there is no organised campaign to remove JC. Fine. Have it your way.

There is clearly dissatisfaction at the party’s ability to score regular own goals on a variety of subjects. Even John McDonnell is pushing for a strong Remain stance.

Dithering about everything isn’t helping us.

Ita being reported that senior civil servants question Corbyns ability to lead his own party let alone the country. Serious concerns are being made at the highest level as he struggles to control his own party, they go on to say that his memory is not what it was and he keeps on forgetting things all the time.

It is also being spoken about by labour MP's that he suffered a mini stroke just recently, if thats true I wish him well.

Moves are also afoot to replace him at the conference with Rebecca Long-Bailey.

Make of the above what you will.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:03 pm Ita being reported that senior civil servants question Corbyns ability to lead his own party let alone the country. Serious concerns are being made at the highest level as he struggles to control his own party, they go on to say that his memory is not what it was and he keeps on forgetting things all the time.

It is also being spoken about by labour MP's that he suffered a mini stroke just recently, if thats true I wish him well.

Moves are also afoot to replace him at the conference with Rebecca Long-Bailey.

Make of the above what you will.

A heady mix of Lies, propoganda and fake news is what I make of it. Not to mention pathetic.

If Corbyn had to endure yet another vote, he would win hands down. The grassroots membership love him

All the smears have come from the right wing media, the tories & the right wing Pro Zionist Labour plp.

They or their donors have a lot to lose if Labour win power under Corbyn. Most people are beginning to wake up now, and can see a smear from a thousand yards away.
Corbyns health is fine.

If Bernie Sanders were to win the Democratic nomination, he will suddenly find he has to deal with much the same thing as Corbyn......those with money & power wont just give it up, thats for sure

I'm not stating facts just saying what's being reported and some of it will be bullshit of that there's no doubt. However, some of it will fall under the 'theres no smoke without fire" section.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:29 pm I'm not stating facts just saying what's being reported and some of it will be sh*t of that there's no doubt. However, some of it will fall under the 'theres no smoke without fire" section.

Sort of if its true you win and if false you also win. Righto

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:12 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:29 pm I'm not stating facts just saying what's being reported and some of it will be sh*t of that there's no doubt. However, some of it will fall under the 'theres no smoke without fire" section.

Sort of if its true you win and if false you also win. Righto

Any bad stuff coming out about JC is simply a conspiracy or lies. The guy walks on water.

Or maybe he’s just a crap leader protected by a mean band of bully boys.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:29 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:12 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:29 pm I'm not stating facts just saying what's being reported and some of it will be sh*t of that there's no doubt. However, some of it will fall under the 'theres no smoke without fire" section.

Sort of if its true you win and if false you also win. Righto

Any bad stuff coming out about JC is simply a conspiracy or lies. The guy walks on water.

Or maybe he’s just a crap leader protected by a mean band of bully boys.

Maybe so Prez, but he still remains more credibility than Buffoon Boris and the Spelling Mistake.

See steptoe does talk sense, now and again. I couldn’t agree more with what he says, it’s just a shame he won’t speak up as leader of the opposition and tell it how it is. More people would back him if he did.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ng-EU.html

Labour has now polled its lowest ever vote share as per yougov.

Con 24% +2
Brexit 23% +1
Libs 20% +1
Lab 18% -2

When you have a party that cannot tell it’s arse from its elbow it’s not really surprising when these figures are presented. They are all at see with Brexit, they have a massive anti-semitisism problem, they want to whack home owners with a massive tax increase, they want to whack landlords hard, and they want to tax every gift you leave your children.

The people are speaking and Labour is not listening. Corbyn is in trouble and I think his time is coming to an end.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:51 am Labour has now polled its lowest ever vote share as per yougov.

Con 24% +2
Brexit 23% +1
Libs 20% +1
Lab 18% -2

When you have a party that cannot tell it’s arse from its elbow it’s not really surprising when these figures are presented. They are all at see with Brexit, they have a massive anti-semitisism problem, they want to whack home owners with a massive tax increase, they want to whack landlords hard, and they want to tax every gift you leave your children.

The people are speaking and Labour is not listening. Corbyn is in trouble and I think his time is coming to an end.

4 years now people have been saying that. No one believes it mate.

If there were to be a hung parliament, which seems likely, both of the LibDem leadership candidates say they will never enter any type of agreement with Labour while Corbyn is leader. So his time may well be up.

Mikero

Once Brexit is out of the way, surely the Brexit party will evaporate?