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Exclusive: Covid-19 may not have originated in China, Oxford University expert believes.

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We're going to just roll on with 1,000 a week dying indefinitely, aren't we?

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:59 am We're going to just roll on with 1,000 a week dying indefinitely, aren't we?

Yep, the new norm.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:59 am We're going to just roll on with 1,000 a week dying indefinitely, aren't we?

At least we all get to go on our holibobs.

Should be able to get some crazy prices on cruises.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:32 pm Should be able to get some crazy prices on cruises.

Some sudden cancellations.

Supply and no-demand

Sarcophagus on Sea.

Pubs close after Super Saturday drinkers test positive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/pubs ... 90576.html

Lovejoy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:29 am Pubs close after Super Saturday drinkers test positive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/pubs ... 90576.html

How very unexpected.

Lovejoy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:29 am Pubs close after Super Saturday drinkers test positive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/pubs ... 90576.html

Plenty of pubs not testing so I expect the worse ☹☹

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:59 am We're going to just roll on with 1,000 a week dying indefinitely, aren't we?

Where are you getting 1000 a week from? The nhs stats show double figures per day.

Of course, you believe the lies and deceptions pedalled out by the establishment don’t you.

The death toll is at least double the published figures. All those in the know state that.

You believe the NHS are falsifying their figures?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:59 am You believe the NHS are falsifying their figures?

It’s all a massive conspiracy. Don’t you realise that. The NHS are complicit in protecting the Government by falsifying figures. The unions stand by and allow this to happen and the media outlets are programmed not to have a go at Boris and the Government.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:59 am You believe the NHS are falsifying their figures?

No, Johnson and his pack of liars. Or Government, whatever you want to call them

But I'm looking at stats from NHS England.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:35 am But I'm looking at stats from NHS England.

These still only show the deaths in hospitals don't they? Where are the deaths in care homes and other places shown?

There have been so many iterations of the data that I honestly don't know what the real numbers are any more.

Now theres a surprise......not.

For the week ending June 26th there were 606 deaths mentioning covid-19 on the death certificate. The week before was 783. This is all settings.

For that week and the week before there were fewer deaths than would be expected in a "normal" week according to the 5-year rolling average.

This is across England and Wales for registered deaths, as reported by the ONS.

Various agencies report numbers that are different (eg different settings, registered vs non registered, etc). This is why people like Chris Whitty say a truly accurate picture can only be achieved some way down the line.

It would be truly accurate if they didn't put everyone down as covid when that wasn't the reason why they died. If you look at the WHO website it will show you all you need to know about pushing the death certificate to certify covid as a reason for death. Now why would they do that?

Thor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:38 pm It would be truly accurate if they didn't put everyone down as covid when that wasn't the reason why they died. If you look at the WHO website it will show you all you need to know about pushing the death certificate to certify covid as a reason for death. Now why would they do that?

I don't know. You tell me. I'll make it easier with multiple choice:

a) The Cabal
b) The Aliens
c) A N Other lunatic conspiracy group
d) The Cabal (we all know it's them really)

Testing in the US is, as Trump keeps saying, turning up more cases, but he is wrong when he claims that 95% will have no problems. In parts of Florida the majority of those being hospitalised are now 30 or younger. When those who test positive and are appearently asymptomatic have been scanned 67% show signs of lung damage, scarring that is permanent and may cause problems in later life. It is also now being found in children which is even more frightening.

Mikero

Australia reimposes Melbourne lockdown for six weeks after cases surge.

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