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Govt. going down the public sector pay freeze route again

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pub ... g-12136852

But not for themselves presumably?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:48 am But not for themselves presumably?

Nah but they can hide behind "An independent body sets our pay"

Can also guarantee some bore will chime in with "Well, actually, I think MPs should be paid more and not allowed 2nd jobs"..... As if it's a hot take

Predictable stuff on public sector pay and Priti Patel.

Meanwhile, between Starmer and Corbyn, the official opposition is too busy having yet another internal dust-up. Quite frankly, I'd be content for both right now to go and do one as they're failing those who need them most.

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:48 am Predictable stuff on public sector pay and Priti Patel.

Meanwhile, between Starmer and Corbyn, the official opposition is too busy having yet another internal dust-up. Quite frankly, I'd be content for both right now to go and do one as they're failing those who need them most.

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Ed Davey

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:58 am

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:48 am Predictable stuff on public sector pay and Priti Patel.

Meanwhile, between Starmer and Corbyn, the official opposition is too busy having yet another internal dust-up. Quite frankly, I'd be content for both right now to go and do one as they're failing those who need them most.

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Ed Davey

Heh.

It's that long since I even gave the Liberals any thought, I had to check to see if he was the dodgy one with the unhappy mrs and speeding tickets.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:35 pm Apparently Clive she will be given a written warning, but probably allowed to keep her job. Probably in line with what would happen in the workplace via a disciplinary hearing.

I’m not defending her as I don’t like the way she speaks to the press or the people, I think she’s rude and condescending and possibly not a good boss to work for.

Depends exactly on the nature of the bullying claims if they're severe enough she has to go but she'll probably plead the defence that she didn't know she was doing it.

Even though she's done it in 3 different departments.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:48 am But not for themselves presumably?

But that's not their fault, their pay rises are set by IPSA.

In any case, their salaries aren't high enough for the significance of their roles. They should be paid in line with the private sector and banned from having other paid roles to top it up.

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:55 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:48 am But not for themselves presumably?

Nah but they can hide behind "An independent body sets our pay"

Can also guarantee some bore will chime in with "Well, actually, I think MPs should be paid more and not allowed 2nd jobs"..... As if it's a hot take

Bugger.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:28 pm You do seem to like having a pop at Priti, I wonder why that is Tuffers?

Presumably because she's a right nasty c***, would be my guess.

Admin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:48 am Predictable stuff on public sector pay and Priti Patel.

Meanwhile, between Starmer and Corbyn, the official opposition is too busy having yet another internal dust-up. Quite frankly, I'd be content for both right now to go and do one as they're failing those who need them most.

A plague on both their houses.

It was Keef the lawyer and his chums who let the people down with their Brexit position at the GE.

One way to completely disengage your workforce when you need them most, morally and ethically bankrupt

Talking of which...

https://www.theguardian.com/global-dev ... App_Other

Any lingering doubts of the Tories getting my vote again gone.

Can't condone bullying in whatever circumstances. I was bullied as a child and have brought my daughter up to know that it's a horrible thing to do to another human being.

It's fine. Really easy to unintentionally bully someone.

https://coldwarsteve.com/2020/11/11/202 ... on-prints/


Get yer Tea Towels here !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55029538

Rich man & slave found at Pompeii

As the Tories like a bit of a Rich person ill drop this
Story in here .

See if Thor.& the others want to duscusa irrelevance
To the Story party in here like they do on the Labour watch thread !!

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:57 pm

You lot talked me out of it, look at how much I could have made!!

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑

Thor wrote: ↑

PoliticOs wrote: ↑

Can I ask you 2 questions on this, Thor? We have very different views politically, but I think your heart is in the right place so I'm interested.

1) I agree we do. So why haven't they done so in a decade of power? And in most cases, why have they enacted policy to make these things go backwards?

2) If you know/agree that things have got worse that way under their tenure but these issues matter to you, why do they deserve your vote?

3) Tories say, and you've said it here before 'Lefties/Labour don't like people that do well/earn well' - so why do you feel the same about Starmer who has built himself up? Why is he part of the establishment?

1) I think that the wrong people were in positions of power within the tory Party. Dave was all about Dave. Teresa couldn't give a toss. Both had good chancellors however, I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them.

I do think Boris does want to make a difference and his levelling up will help to achieve it. Under his watch I would like to see these policies reversed or new ones brought in to change the direction that was taken. I know I bang on about homelessness, but he has set in policy to eradicate it by 2025 this can only be a good thing and its these sort of polices that must be driven forwards which make huge differences to peoples lives.

2) we need to see how that goes in the next 4 years.

3) all politicians are a part of the establishment. As far as starmer building himself up could he and his views work in favour of the many and not the few? Possibly only time will in that respect.

Of all the pish you post on here, this is the most bat-sh*t crazy thing I’ve read. Boris has conned you.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:40 pm
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Do you have any experience in men’s rings and whatnot?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑

Thor wrote: ↑

PoliticOs wrote: ↑

Can I ask you 2 questions on this, Thor? We have very different views politically, but I think your heart is in the right place so I'm interested.

1) I agree we do. So why haven't they done so in a decade of power? And in most cases, why have they enacted policy to make these things go backwards?

2) If you know/agree that things have got worse that way under their tenure but these issues matter to you, why do they deserve your vote?

3) Tories say, and you've said it here before 'Lefties/Labour don't like people that do well/earn well' - so why do you feel the same about Starmer who has built himself up? Why is he part of the establishment?

1) I think that the wrong people were in positions of power within the tory Party. Dave was all about Dave. Teresa couldn't give a toss. Both had good chancellors however, I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them.

I do think Boris does want to make a difference and his levelling up will help to achieve it. Under his watch I would like to see these policies reversed or new ones brought in to change the direction that was taken. I know I bang on about homelessness, but he has set in policy to eradicate it by 2025 this can only be a good thing and its these sort of polices that must be driven forwards which make huge differences to peoples lives.

2) we need to see how that goes in the next 4 years.

3) all politicians are a part of the establishment. As far as starmer building himself up could he and his views work in favour of the many and not the few? Possibly only time will in that respect.

Of all the pish you post on here, this is the most bat-sh*t crazy thing I’ve read. Boris has conned you.

Have I had a stroke or something?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... el-inquiry

Johnson hitting the proverbial sewer, aided and abetted by the puppet Tory MPs and ministers ....
Wow! How much lower can he sink?

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:07 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55029538

Rich man & slave found at Pompeii

As the Tories like a bit of a Rich person ill drop this
Story in here .

See if Thor.& the others want to duscusa irrelevance
To the Story party in here like they do on the Labour watch thread !!

Thory Party goes all quiet when the government disgraces itself yet again.

E10EU wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:18 am https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... el-inquiry

Johnson hitting the proverbial sewer, aided and abetted by the puppet Tory MPs and ministers ....
Wow! How much lower can he sink?

Physically impossible. He is wading in the Tory cesspool permanently.

Boris announces trade deal with Canada, great news and we can start to drive the economy forwards post Brexit.