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Piers corbyn fined again for protesting.

Piers Corbyn arrested again, standing up for what he believes in.

https://news.sky.com/video/covid-19-pie ... y-12178248

4 Thor posts in a row I cannae read. Well pleased with the foe function. Well done Mods.

It's annoying that he hasn't come out in support of the teachers and unions on this and called for school closures. It's rare that an opportunity arises to side with unions on an issue that has widespread public support.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... y-majority

His principles are driving him to Number 10.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:34 pm It's annoying that he hasn't come out in support of the teachers and unions on this and called for school closures. It's rare that an opportunity arises to side with unions on an issue that has widespread public support.

Correct. In this instance, he has missed an open goal.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:32 pm Piers Corbyn arrested again, standing up for what he believes in.

https://news.sky.com/video/covid-19-pie ... y-12178248

Hearing today the experiences of two friends I’m sure that if it was closer to home he would soon change his tune

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:32 pm Piers Corbyn arrested again, standing up for what he believes in.

https://news.sky.com/video/covid-19-pie ... y-12178248

Dissent and disruption, must run in his family.

SKS abandoning another pledge... not sure how this is meant to tempt Scotlandshire voters back. But perhaps it is all now about the red wall voters in the north.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... t-reversal

The old wet lettuce flip flopping again.

I know we are a long way from an election, but what exactly does he stand for? I think he has watched Boris do more u turns than you see in a test centre in any one week and thinks I’ll copy him and flip and flop.

Be a man, be a leader and demonstrate you’re fit to lead this country, cos right now he’s not showing up well.

I get it that if you're looking for values you'll be disappointed. But for Labour to have any hope of winning a majority of seats in England (and it is clear that an England majority is key to winning a UK election), then Kier has to win those swing voters in the red wall. If he doesn't then the Tories will spin the next GE as being the choice between them or a Labour leader beholden to Sturgeon (or whoever is SNP leader by then given the trouble she's in).

Yeah, it's crap. But he's smart, has done his sums, and knows what needs to be done. That's just how the current electoral system works.

Suck it up.

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:29 pm SKS abandoning another pledge... not sure how this is meant to tempt Scotlandshire voters back. But perhaps it is all now about the red wall voters in the north.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... t-reversal

How does it feel not to be priority anymore in terms of Labour policies?

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:10 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:29 pm SKS abandoning another pledge... not sure how this is meant to tempt Scotlandshire voters back. But perhaps it is all now about the red wall voters in the north.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... t-reversal

How does it feel not to be priority anymore in terms of Labour policies?

Horrifying in an ivory tower metropolitan elite type of way. Almost as bad as the day I ran out of quinoa.

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:39 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:10 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:29 pm SKS abandoning another pledge... not sure how this is meant to tempt Scotlandshire voters back. But perhaps it is all now about the red wall voters in the north.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... t-reversal

How does it feel not to be priority anymore in terms of Labour policies?

Horrifying in an ivory tower metropolitan elite type of way. Almost as bad as the day I ran out of quinoa.

Sorry to hear that

How would you vote if the election was tomorrow? Gonna hazard a guess at SirK

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:42 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:39 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:10 pm

How does it feel not to be priority anymore in terms of Labour policies?

Horrifying in an ivory tower metropolitan elite type of way. Almost as bad as the day I ran out of quinoa.

Sorry to hear that

How would you vote if the election was tomorrow? Gonna hazard a guess at SirK

In all honesty, I’m not sure I’d really bother given the constituency I live in which is massive Tory country. Had it been a marginal I suppose I’d have voted Labour as it’s the only realistic challenege to the Tories.
However I don’t see Labour in any guise, be it Tory lite or full of socialist policies, getting anywhere near a majority.

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:10 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:29 pm SKS abandoning another pledge... not sure how this is meant to tempt Scotlandshire voters back. But perhaps it is all now about the red wall voters in the north.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... t-reversal

How does it feel not to be priority anymore in terms of Labour policies?

I don’t know his full details but I’m going to wager Admin hasn’t been priority in terms of Labour policies for a good 5 years.

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:53 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:42 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:39 pm

Horrifying in an ivory tower metropolitan elite type of way. Almost as bad as the day I ran out of quinoa.

Sorry to hear that

How would you vote if the election was tomorrow? Gonna hazard a guess at SirK

In all honesty, I’m not sure I’d really bother given the constituency I live in which is massive Tory country. Had it been a marginal I suppose I’d have voted Labour as it’s the only realistic challenege to the Tories.
However I don’t see Labour in any guise, be it Tory lite or full of socialist policies, getting anywhere near a majority.

Disappointing isn't it, Lab/Lib need a pact and I think this is far more likely with SKS

Just moved back to a similarly boring constituency as yourself. In 2019 I was Wimbledon where I lived for years and we came within 630 votes of beating the Tories in a solid Tory seat... Sadly Labour ran also with 12,500 votes

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:21 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:53 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:42 pm
Sorry to hear that

How would you vote if the election was tomorrow? Gonna hazard a guess at SirK

In all honesty, I’m not sure I’d really bother given the constituency I live in which is massive Tory country. Had it been a marginal I suppose I’d have voted Labour as it’s the only realistic challenege to the Tories.
However I don’t see Labour in any guise, be it Tory lite or full of socialist policies, getting anywhere near a majority.

Disappointing isn't it, Lab/Lib need a pact and I think this is far more likely with SKS

Just moved back to a similarly boring constituency as yourself. In 2019 I was Wimbledon where I lived for years and we came within 630 votes of beating the Tories in a solid Tory seat... Sadly Labour ran also with 12,500 votes

Yes but life’s full of them. Until there’s some form of electoral reform (spoiler - there won’t be), there’s not a great deal of hope, even with a lib / lab pact. Realistically, anyone opposing the tories needs wee Nicolas party with them - and as we know, that won’t play in Ingerlund.

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:37 pm

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:21 pm

Admin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:53 pm

In all honesty, I’m not sure I’d really bother given the constituency I live in which is massive Tory country. Had it been a marginal I suppose I’d have voted Labour as it’s the only realistic challenege to the Tories.
However I don’t see Labour in any guise, be it Tory lite or full of socialist policies, getting anywhere near a majority.

Disappointing isn't it, Lab/Lib need a pact and I think this is far more likely with SKS

Just moved back to a similarly boring constituency as yourself. In 2019 I was Wimbledon where I lived for years and we came within 630 votes of beating the Tories in a solid Tory seat... Sadly Labour ran also with 12,500 votes

Yes but life’s full of them. Until there’s some form of electoral reform (spoiler - there won’t be), there’s not a great deal of hope, even with a lib / lab pact. Realistically, anyone opposing the tories needs wee Nicolas party with them - and as we know, that won’t play in Ingerlund.

Given NU doesn't post anymore I'm obliged to remind you all New Labour consistently won without Scotland

The brewing scandal around Sturgeon, which Max tipped us off about, is looking like it has a distinct possibility of ending her career. There's no denying her popularity in Scotland, so it begs the question; what would happen to SNP support without her?

The quicker she is hung drawn and quartered the better this kingdom will be. Yes max was right although he never really said what it was.

Labour appoint former spy as head of social media.

I’m saying nothing else on the subject.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:41 pm Labour appoint former spy as head of social media.

I’m saying nothing else on the subject.

Do you mean the former Israeli spy?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210 ... edia-team/

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:14 am The brewing scandal around Sturgeon, which Max tipped us off about, is looking like it has a distinct possibility of ending her career. There's no denying her popularity in Scotland, so it begs the question; what would happen to SNP support without her?

What was she brewing scandalously? Vinegar or beer?