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Posted: **Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:23 pm**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:48 pm Cronyvirus strikes again

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... SbnbPc3Jb4

Ooo Ronnie Ronnie

Posted: **Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:55 am**

"Last month, Mr Jenrick admitted the decision was made by Jake Berry, a fellow minister, while he approved a grant to Mr Berry’s constituency"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... wIaCieozbI

Posted: **Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:33 pm**

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54907188

Senior aid leaves Johnsons Staff
Shame its not Cummings

Posted: **Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:05 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:33 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54907188

Senior aid leaves Johnsons Staff
Shame its not Cummings

If reports are to be believed, Carrie weren’t having him as the new chief of staff.

Posted: **Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:17 pm**

Women are normally very good at telling there other halves
That his mates are all laughing at him .

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 am**

I see the likes of Peston and Laura K have embarrassed themselves again making this aide sacking story the top headline - confusing their bubble gossip and briefings for actual important news. Client journalism at its worst.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:42 am**

Are you not excited to see which, if any, SPADs follow him out of No 10 or which other white, bald, 40 something guy is going to fill the power vacuum he's left behind?

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 am**

Well done Boris and Rishi record growth for the quarter, a great result as the government of the people.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:42 am**

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 am Well done Boris and Rishi record growth for the quarter, a great result as the government of the people.

What are you deriving from this?

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:15 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 am Well done Boris and Rishi record growth for the quarter, a great result as the government of the people.

Shame its ldown on last years figures Thorbyn

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:20 pm**

So negative tuffers. Its a positive let's celebrate that fact.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:46 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:20 pm So negative tuffers. Its a positive let's celebrate that fact.

I'm just balancing your delusional over optimistic slant ,
Back to where we are
Done O.K still room for lots of improvement .

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:51 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:20 pm So negative tuffers. Its a positive let's celebrate that fact.

We've had a major negative this year so we will need two positives. One to cancel out the negative and one to get positive.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:01 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:51 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:20 pm So negative tuffers. Its a positive let's celebrate that fact.
We've had a major negative this year so we will need two positives. One to cancel out the negative and one to get positive.

Absolutely agree with your comment.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:05 pm**

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:24 pm**

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 am Well done Boris and Rishi record growth for the quarter, a great result as the government of the people.

Got to admit to being surprised by those numbers. OK, it’s on the back of a massive drop due to the Global Covid pandemic. But surprising none the less.

All this alongside COVID where, since the July/August low point England has performed better than France, Spain and Italy. In terms of testing per million, significantly better.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:26 pm**

We're the first country in Europe to break the 50,000 dead barrier, you bell cheese.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:30 pm**

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:26 pm We're the first country in Europe to break the 50,000 dead barrier, you bell cheese.

61,000 if you include death certificates that mention
Covid on them . You know before the tories changed
To the 28 day rule .

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:30 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:26 pm We're the first country in Europe to break the 50,000 dead barrier, you bell cheese.
61,000 if you include death certificates that mention
Covid on them . You know before the tories changed
To the 28 day rule .

Go look at the global statistics and graphs. Try to understand how numbers work. Go look back at the situation in July/August and monitor from then onwards. Try to understand the global nature of this pandemic and the different issues countries face. Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.

Try to understand the conflicts between the factions wanting and not wanting lockdowns. Look around the world. Look at deaths per million in Spain and Belgium. Look at how countries, like France, who omit deaths at home.

Try to look at the issues without red coloured glasses. But of course the looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion so no political bias there.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:52 pm**

There is political bias, you voted for him. Your bias was to him rather than 'the looney left', which is absolutely fine. But you still voted for him, so you're not neutral entirely. If you're talking of 'looney left' as the far left, or Corbynites (as I assume you are again), I think you'll find they are very critical of Labour right now.

But I did like the rest of your post. When coming to view information, it is GOOD to look at a wide range of circumstances to come to an answer. It's really cutting edge stuff.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:54 pm**

According to https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... habitants/ we have the ninth worst total deaths per million. Belgium is having an absolute shocker.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:58 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:30 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:26 pm We're the first country in Europe to break the 50,000 dead barrier, you bell cheese.
61,000 if you include death certificates that mention
Covid on them . You know before the tories changed
To the 28 day rule .
Go look at the global statistics and graphs. Try to understand how numbers work. Go look back at the situation in July/August and monitor from then onwards. Try to understand the global nature of this pandemic and the different issues countries face. Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.

Try to understand the conflicts between the factions wanting and not wanting lockdowns. Look around the world. Look at deaths per million in Spain and Belgium. Look at how countries, like France, who omit deaths at home.

Try to look at the issues without red coloured glasses. But of course the looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion so no political bias there.

That was a long winded pointless rant .

If it meant anything at all id be impressed .

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:58 pm**

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.

I've asked this before, and never had a satisfactory response. What makes people in the UK more moronic that others? Is there some genetic/dietary/environmental reason - or might it be somehow connected to how we are led?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm Try to look at the issues without red coloured glasses. But of course the looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion so no political bias there.

Nope, none at all.

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:02 pm**

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:58 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.
I've asked this before, and never had a satisfactory response. What makes people in the UK more moronic that others? Is there some genetic/dietary/environmental reason - or might it be somehow connected to how we are led?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm Try to look at the issues without red coloured glasses. But of course the looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion so no political bias there.
Nope, none at all.

I couldnt have put it any better .
Cheers Spike

Posted: **Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:05 pm**

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:58 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm Try to take into consideration the moron factor of many in the U.K. who choose to ignore Government guidelines.
I've asked this before, and never had a satisfactory response. What makes people in the UK more moronic that others? Is there some genetic/dietary/environmental reason - or might it be somehow connected to how we are led?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:43 pm Try to look at the issues without red coloured glasses. But of course the looney left have no interest in this. Hey ho. I dislike Boris with a passion so no political bias there.
Nope, none at all.

Not at all. I’ve been plenty critical of many things the Tories have done. Never made any secret of my dislike for Boris even before he became leader. I’ve consistently been complimentary to Kier and aware of the difficulties he face. If there was an election tomorrow, Labour would get my vote like they have for the majority of my life. It’s only in recent years I’ve become anti Labour and that’s down the the rubbish leaders they choose to elect. I’m a self confessed Blairite.

Thinking about it, maybe Kier once he sorts out the current Labour shambles.

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