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Admin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:02 am Blimey. The feuds on this MB.

No. It’s just pointing out hypocrisy. Doug is chairman of Loft but is quite happy to take a dig at a social media platform that has been used by Orient fans for 20+ years. I suspect the problem is people on here historically had the temerity to question Loft, particularly on the subject of Mat Ropers involvement and rather than take on board people’s concerns, it’s easier for them to just dismiss this place.

Bit like over on Mungos where there’s a continued air of superiority and regular reference to how this place is a cesspit of filth and bad behaviour.

Mungo shut his place down last week for a few hours as it was all getting a bit negative and unpleasant for him. Fair enough. But what’s this? Mungos now telling his followers how he logs on over here to wind up Tuffers who’s past difficulties are not a secret. I’ve no feud with that lot there despite living rent free in some of their heads - they just don’t like it when I point out the glaring hypocrisy in their nonsense.

I’ve no idea if Mungo really comes over here or not. One things for sure, on the rare occasions I put my head over the parapet there to put someone right on something they’re unsure of, I don’t sot behind an alias.

So no, it’s not feuding from my perspective. Feuds are boring. Pointing out inconsistencies from those presenting themselves in a falsely superior than thou way is something I’m happy to take on.

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:02 am Blimey. The feuds on this MB.

No. It’s just pointing out hypocrisy. Doug is chairman of Loft but is quite happy to take a dig at a social media platform that has been used by Orient fans for 20+ years. I suspect the problem is people on here historically had the temerity to question Loft, particularly on the subject of Mat Ropers involvement and rather than take on board people’s concerns, it’s easier for them to just dismiss this place.

Bit like over on Mungos where there’s a continued air of superiority and regular reference to how this place is a cesspit of filth and bad behaviour.

Mungo shut his place down last week for a few hours as it was all getting a bit negative and unpleasant for him. Fair enough. But what’s this? Mungos now telling his followers how he logs on over here to wind up Tuffers who’s past difficulties are not a secret. I’ve no feud with that lot there despite living rent free in some of their heads - they just don’t like it when I point out the glaring hypocrisy in their nonsense.

I’ve no idea if Mungo really comes over here or not. One things for sure, on the rare occasions I put my head over the parapet there to put someone right on something they’re unsure of, I don’t sot behind an alias.

So no, it’s not feuding from my perspective. Feuds are boring. Pointing out inconsistencies from those presenting themselves in a falsely superior than thou way is something I’m happy to take on.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:14 am

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:02 am Blimey. The feuds on this MB.

No. It’s just pointing out hypocrisy. Doug is chairman of Loft but is quite happy to take a dig at a social media platform that has been used by Orient fans for 20+ years. I suspect the problem is people on here historically had the temerity to question Loft, particularly on the subject of Mat Ropers involvement and rather than take on board people’s concerns, it’s easier for them to just dismiss this place.

Bit like over on Mungos where there’s a continued air of superiority and regular reference to how this place is a cesspit of filth and bad behaviour.

Mungo shut his place down last week for a few hours as it was all getting a bit negative and unpleasant for him. Fair enough. But what’s this? Mungos now telling his followers how he logs on over here to wind up Tuffers who’s past difficulties are not a secret. I’ve no feud with that lot there despite living rent free in some of their heads - they just don’t like it when I point out the glaring hypocrisy in their nonsense.

I’ve no idea if Mungo really comes over here or not. One things for sure, on the rare occasions I put my head over the parapet there to put someone right on something they’re unsure of, I don’t sot behind an alias.

So no, it’s not feuding from my perspective. Feuds are boring. Pointing out inconsistencies from those presenting themselves in a falsely superior than thou way is something I’m happy to take on.

It's not very fraternal in tone in any event. Doug is a legend.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:14 am

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:02 am Blimey. The feuds on this MB.

No. It’s just pointing out hypocrisy. Doug is chairman of Loft but is quite happy to take a dig at a social media platform that has been used by Orient fans for 20+ years. I suspect the problem is people on here historically had the temerity to question Loft, particularly on the subject of Mat Ropers involvement and rather than take on board people’s concerns, it’s easier for them to just dismiss this place.

Bit like over on Mungos where there’s a continued air of superiority and regular reference to how this place is a cesspit of filth and bad behaviour.

Mungo shut his place down last week for a few hours as it was all getting a bit negative and unpleasant for him. Fair enough. But what’s this? Mungos now telling his followers how he logs on over here to wind up Tuffers who’s past difficulties are not a secret. I’ve no feud with that lot there despite living rent free in some of their heads - they just don’t like it when I point out the glaring hypocrisy in their nonsense.

I’ve no idea if Mungo really comes over here or not. One things for sure, on the rare occasions I put my head over the parapet there to put someone right on something they’re unsure of, I don’t sot behind an alias.

So no, it’s not feuding from my perspective. Feuds are boring. Pointing out inconsistencies from those presenting themselves in a falsely superior than thou way is something I’m happy to take on.

It's not very fraternal in tone in any event. Doug is a legend.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:23 am

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:14 am

Admin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 am

No. It’s just pointing out hypocrisy. Doug is chairman of Loft but is quite happy to take a dig at a social media platform that has been used by Orient fans for 20+ years. I suspect the problem is people on here historically had the temerity to question Loft, particularly on the subject of Mat Ropers involvement and rather than take on board people’s concerns, it’s easier for them to just dismiss this place.

Bit like over on Mungos where there’s a continued air of superiority and regular reference to how this place is a cesspit of filth and bad behaviour.

Mungo shut his place down last week for a few hours as it was all getting a bit negative and unpleasant for him. Fair enough. But what’s this? Mungos now telling his followers how he logs on over here to wind up Tuffers who’s past difficulties are not a secret. I’ve no feud with that lot there despite living rent free in some of their heads - they just don’t like it when I point out the glaring hypocrisy in their nonsense.

I’ve no idea if Mungo really comes over here or not. One things for sure, on the rare occasions I put my head over the parapet there to put someone right on something they’re unsure of, I don’t sot behind an alias.

So no, it’s not feuding from my perspective. Feuds are boring. Pointing out inconsistencies from those presenting themselves in a falsely superior than thou way is something I’m happy to take on.

It's not very fraternal in tone in any event. Doug is a legend.

Doug is a twaghead, more like.

VeganO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:33 am For what's it worth, I don't think any party has come out of this incident looking good, as other boarders have pointed out.
I am happy to accept that the individua, Matt R***r,l did not use racist language & it is awful to be accused of that.
However what concerns me is as follows:
My understanding is that Matt was shouting abuse at the opposition bench & I wondered how this was acceptable. Strictly speaking, it could constitute the criminal offence of disorderly conduct under the Public Order Act, depending upon the circumstances.
I get that LOFT would want to support him but do they really think this kind of behaviour is fine? As a supporter & LOFT member I would like to think that in private they have spoken to him about his behaviour & told him to desist.
This is not the first time he's behaved in this way.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:14 pm He’s tweeted what he said to the Col Utd player.

If anyone believes that, they’re naive enough to get a spot on the Lofft Board.

VeganO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:33 am For what's it worth, I don't think any party has come out of this incident looking good, as other boarders have pointed out.
I am happy to accept that the individua, Matt R***r,l did not use racist language & it is awful to be accused of that.
However what concerns me is as follows:
My understanding is that Matt was shouting abuse at the opposition bench & I wondered how this was acceptable. Strictly speaking, it could constitute the criminal offence of disorderly conduct under the Public Order Act, depending upon the circumstances.
I get that LOFT would want to support him but do they really think this kind of behaviour is fine? As a supporter & LOFT member I would like to think that in private they have spoken to him about his behaviour & told him to desist.
This is not the first time he's behaved in this way.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:17 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:14 pm He’s tweeted what he said to the Col Utd player.

If anyone believes that, they’re naive enough to get a spot on the Lofft Board.

That's what I mean about him dodging around what he actually shouted. Highly unlikely there would be no swear words or other abuse thrown at the player, but I guess that makes me a usual suspect.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:45 pm

VeganO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:33 am For what's it worth, I don't think any party has come out of this incident looking good, as other boarders have pointed out.
I am happy to accept that the individua, Matt R***r,l did not use racist language & it is awful to be accused of that.
However what concerns me is as follows:
My understanding is that Matt was shouting abuse at the opposition bench & I wondered how this was acceptable. Strictly speaking, it could constitute the criminal offence of disorderly conduct under the Public Order Act, depending upon the circumstances.
I get that LOFT would want to support him but do they really think this kind of behaviour is fine? As a supporter & LOFT member I would like to think that in private they have spoken to him about his behaviour & told him to desist.
This is not the first time he's behaved in this way.

I see where you are coming from, but what constitutes abuse? We do not want shouting at football matches to become a criminal offence, presumably.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:31 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:45 pm

VeganO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:33 am For what's it worth, I don't think any party has come out of this incident looking good, as other boarders have pointed out.
I am happy to accept that the individua, Matt R***r,l did not use racist language & it is awful to be accused of that.
However what concerns me is as follows:
My understanding is that Matt was shouting abuse at the opposition bench & I wondered how this was acceptable. Strictly speaking, it could constitute the criminal offence of disorderly conduct under the Public Order Act, depending upon the circumstances.
I get that LOFT would want to support him but do they really think this kind of behaviour is fine? As a supporter & LOFT member I would like to think that in private they have spoken to him about his behaviour & told him to desist.
This is not the first time he's behaved in this way.

I see where you are coming from, but what constitutes abuse? We do not want shouting at football matches to become a criminal offence, presumably.

Oh behave.

We’re not talking about a bit of shouting here. We’re talking about someone who makes such a f*cking tit of himself that all 4 stands end up watching what he’s up to, not the game, when he properly goes Off.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:48 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:31 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:45 pm

I see where you are coming from, but what constitutes abuse? We do not want shouting at football matches to become a criminal offence, presumably.

Oh behave.

We’re not talking about a bit of shouting here. We’re talking about someone who makes such a f*cking tit of himself that all 4 stands end up watching what he’s up to, not the game, when he properly goes Off.

I see your point…

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:42 pm it’s possible a local family thinking about popping along to a game won’t now bother after seeing in the local news how an orient fan was arrested for racial abuse.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:59 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:42 pm it’s possible a local family thinking about popping along to a game won’t now bother after seeing in the local news how an orient fan was arrested for racial abuse.

A local family watching the local news will have seen our results. If they still decide to come then, quite frankly, they deserve all they get.