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Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:34 am

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:55 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:28 pm

What even was that?

Something that the Club doesn't seem to be able to explain very well

Honestly, I'm a bit embarrassed that the Club I support is running scared of a few morons amongst our support that represent a small minority of the fanbase.

Wasnt it a fan from another club sending abuse via social media that triggered this change in stance?

Possibly.

One of the people sending abusive messages was not identified, as far as I am aware.

I’m assuming the players are aware of the section of the away support that do boo the knee, however.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:34 am

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:55 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:28 pm

What even was that?

Something that the Club doesn't seem to be able to explain very well

Honestly, I'm a bit embarrassed that the Club I support is running scared of a few morons amongst our support that represent a small minority of the fanbase.

Wasnt it a fan from another club sending abuse via social media that triggered this change in stance?

That may well have been part of it. But the Club has been near silent on the reasons, so we can only speculate.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:39 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:34 am

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:55 am

Something that the Club doesn't seem to be able to explain very well

Honestly, I'm a bit embarrassed that the Club I support is running scared of a few morons amongst our support that represent a small minority of the fanbase.

Wasnt it a fan from another club sending abuse via social media that triggered this change in stance?

That may well have been part of it. But the Club has been near silent on the reasons, so we can only speculate.

Maybe they're just trying to find the elusive middle ground by keeping the racists and anti racists both happy at the same time.

One week, taking the knee, next week not bothering. As you say we can but speculate.

There was something which KJ said in a recent interview when Dave Victor asked him about taking the knee – can’t recall the exact words, but it was along the lines of the players wanted to show support but they’ve also recognised the need to move on from it at some stage – which I took to mean as many have said that these things have their day.

EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:48 pm There was something which KJ said in a recent interview when Dave Victor asked him about taking the knee – can’t recall the exact words, but it was along the lines of the players wanted to show support but they’ve also recognised the need to move on from it at some stage – which I took to mean as many have said that these things have their day.

If only Racist Bigots had had fhere day

EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:48 pm There was something which KJ said in a recent interview when Dave Victor asked him about taking the knee – can’t recall the exact words, but it was along the lines of the players wanted to show support but they’ve also recognised the need to move on from it at some stage – which I took to mean as many have said that these things have their day.

It would send out a very poor message if "at some stage" just happened to be the immediate aftermath of a very public incident and an uptick in imbecility from our own fans.

They going to kneel forever? They have decided it’s enough and now moving on to other gestures of support for marginalised communities (except poor white kids obvs). It’s all good. Stop yer moaning.

Oyinb0 doesn’t want to replace his profile pic so he/she is a bit salty.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:34 pm Oyinb0 doesn’t want to replace his profile pic so he/she is a bit salty.

I'm not going to stop kneeling for a good while yet, don't you worry about that.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:32 pm They going to kneel forever? They have decided it’s enough and now moving on to other gestures of support for marginalised communities (except poor white kids obvs). It’s all good. Stop yer moaning.

No-one is stopping you campaigning for poor white kids to be treated better.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:53 pm

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:32 pm They going to kneel forever? They have decided it’s enough and now moving on to other gestures of support for marginalised communities (except poor white kids obvs). It’s all good. Stop yer moaning.

No-one is stopping you campaigning for poor white kids to be treated better.

Are you saying they are treated worse than poor black kids ?

I think that is what he is saying. Out of order if you ask me especially considering his profile pic of Jobi….hmm, certainly something to ponder.

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:49 pm

Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:34 pm Oyinb0 doesn’t want to replace his profile pic so he/she is a bit salty.

I'm not going to stop kneeling for a good while yet, don't you worry about that.

So you do kneel then? What stand are you in?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:34 am

OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:55 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:28 pm

What even was that?

Something that the Club doesn't seem to be able to explain very well

Honestly, I'm a bit embarrassed that the Club I support is running scared of a few morons amongst our support that represent a small minority of the fanbase.

Wasnt it a fan from another club sending abuse via social media that triggered this change in stance?

I stand corrected, someone did suggest the reason: https://youtu.be/_RL9rd07iEc?t=367 (watch for about 25s)

Euro 2020: England fan jailed over racist rant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59148078

Good to see the Bigot getting Jail Time

Don't think the Hartlepool players took the kneel Saturday

I streamed Peterborough v Huddersfield on Tuesday, my Posh supporting son watching it from Lincoln where he’s at uni so we text chatted throughout.

Ref blew to take the knee beforehand, one Terries player did, no Posh players did, ok so I couldn’t see the keepers but the majority of players were in view of the cameras. Just felt a bit bizarre.

If they do that bloody minutes silence again this weekend, I’m booing them. There’s no place for that sort of political nonsense in sport.

Agree. We need to keep politics out of football. Right?

It's been passed it's sell by date for months now . Not having any impact ,try something different.

soloman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:59 am It's been passed it's sell by date for months now . Not having any impact ,try something different.

Agreed. Maybe a conga for the war dead instead of that dirge on the trumpet whilst everyone looks down at their feet in silence.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:36 pm

soloman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:59 am It's been passed it's sell by date for months now . Not having any impact ,try something different.

Agreed. Maybe a conga for the war dead instead of that dirge on the trumpet whilst everyone looks down at their feet in silence.

I think he means taking the knee

Oh, sorry.

But the point remains. Why do we do special remembering for the war dead? What about the dead who died not doing a war?

All deaths matter.

Why do we now have 3 weeks of silences for Remembrance Sunday?

It doesn’t seem that long ago that we had a 2 minutes silence before games on the weekend closest to 11/11 but now every club must be seen to be holding their own tribute. Watching Villa v West Ham last week they had their minutes silence etc. as it was their last home game before 11/11. The first time I have ever witnessed a Remembrance silence in October.

Strange how some people like to mock those that died and fought for Britain in the war but go apoplectic when someone uses the word P*ki which is to mock people from Pakistan and other Asian countries. Weird. It’s almost like they are embarrassed to be British which we know is the reason Labour losses election after election.