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Rich Tea Wellin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:40 pm Wouldn’t be surprised if Israel uses nukes. Unhinged state.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did not. They are far from unhinged.

500+ wounded after 2000 rockets launched. Its israel thats unhinged?

In the past, when Palestinians have mounted any resistance to the occupying forces, for a week after, Israel bombs the sh*t out of Gaza, murdering hundreds of civilians including kids.
I expect the same will happen this time too.
There's never any criticism though from the worlds governments or the mainstream media
Strange eh?

I feel sorry for the people who see scores being maimed and killed and instinctively reach for whatabouterry and deflection

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:49 pm In the past, when Palestinians have mounted any resistance to the occupying forces, for a week after, Israel bombs the sh*t out of Gaza, murdering hundreds of civilians including kids.
I expect the same will happen this time too.
There's never any criticism though from the worlds governments or the mainstream media
Strange eh?

Yes, here he is, as soon soon as Israel is bombed or rocketed and then retaliates, he jumps straight out of his pram banging on that Israel and Israel that. Yet he is absolutely dumb about the long, destructive war going on in Yemen and Syria mainly dictated and armed by Saudi Arabia and the devil that is Iran. You are just so blatant in your condemnation of Israel that it stinks of hatred.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:01 pm Iran is going to fight Israel until the last Palestinian.

Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:00 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:49 pm In the past, when Palestinians have mounted any resistance to the occupying forces, for a week after, Israel bombs the sh*t out of Gaza, murdering hundreds of civilians including kids.
I expect the same will happen this time too.
There's never any criticism though from the worlds governments or the mainstream media
Strange eh?

Yes, here he is, as soon soon as Israel is bombed or rocketed and then retaliates, he jumps straight out of his pram banging on that Israel and Israel that. Yet he is absolutely dumb about the long, destructive war going on in Yemen and Syria mainly dictated and armed by Saudi Arabia and the devil that is Iran. You are just so blatant in your condemnation of Israel that it stinks of hatred.

You really are a first class fanny
Am i not allowed to hate a fascist government?
Open your eyes and look at the brutality meted out by the Israelis
Why is wrong for the Russians to occupy Ukraines territory, but not wrong for Israel to occupy Palestine
I hate all far right governments wherever they are, including Israel

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Hamas openly bragging about committing war crimes through hostage taking

https://news.sky.com/video/israel-hamas ... d-12979172

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... tml?page=6

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:11 pm Hamas openly bragging about committing war crimes through hostage taking

https://news.sky.com/video/israel-hamas ... d-12979172

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... tml?page=6

Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:02 pm I feel sorry for the people who see scores being maimed and killed and instinctively reach for whatabouterry and deflection

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Not being able to just condemn Hamas is f***ing bizarre. People who would happily and enthusiastically call out whataboutery elsewhere are deploying it with about as much flair and credibility as one of OFF’s “must dash, game day” posts.

CEB wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:36 pm Not being able to just condemn Hamas is f***ing bizarre. People who would happily and enthusiastically call out whataboutery elsewhere are deploying it with about as much flair and credibility as one of OFF’s “must dash, game day” posts.

Worth remembering that Israel helped spawn Hamas as a way to crush the secular nationalism of Yasser Arafat's PLO. The US did same thing with Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Better to remind both Hamas and the Israeli government that humanitarian law makes it a war crime to target or indiscriminately fire on civilians.

Anyone know if taking hostages is a war crime?

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:18 pm Anyone know if taking hostages is a war crime?

Not if they're Israelis.

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:17 am

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:33 am https://www.youtube.com/live/leYjjKZtK38?feature=share

OK - I clearly got that one wrong. Whilst I feel for the guy and am amazed that he made such a statement, I don’t agree with his views on the State of Israel being a force for good.

What a complete plonker you must be, still scrabbling to find capital to criticise Israel on.
I am sure he would be strengthened by your heart-felt ‘feel for the guy’ nonsense.

Interesting that you instantly disbelieved it. There is no way if the outrage was perpetrated the other way would you have ‘got this wrong’.

Innate prejudices have a way of coming out.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:47 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:36 pm Not being able to just condemn Hamas is f***ing bizarre. People who would happily and enthusiastically call out whataboutery elsewhere are deploying it with about as much flair and credibility as one of OFF’s “must dash, game day” posts.

Worth remembering that Israel helped spawn Hamas as a way to crush the secular nationalism of Yasser Arafat's PLO. The US did same thing with Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Better to remind both Hamas and the Israeli government that humanitarian law makes it a war crime to target or indiscriminately fire on civilians.

Who’s going to do the reminding?

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:49 pm In the past, when Palestinians have mounted any resistance to the occupying forces, for a week after, Israel bombs the sh*t out of Gaza, murdering hundreds of civilians including kids.
I expect the same will happen this time too.
There's never any criticism though from the worlds governments or the mainstream media
Strange eh?

What is strange is your pathological hatred for Israel.

FrankOFile wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:59 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:47 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:36 pm Not being able to just condemn Hamas is f***ing bizarre. People who would happily and enthusiastically call out whataboutery elsewhere are deploying it with about as much flair and credibility as one of OFF’s “must dash, game day” posts.

Worth remembering that Israel helped spawn Hamas as a way to crush the secular nationalism of Yasser Arafat's PLO. The US did same thing with Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Better to remind both Hamas and the Israeli government that humanitarian law makes it a war crime to target or indiscriminately fire on civilians.

Who’s going to do the reminding?

Me, you. The International community who oppose indiscriminate violence against civilians.

FrankOFile wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:59 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:47 pm

CEB wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:36 pm Not being able to just condemn Hamas is f***ing bizarre. People who would happily and enthusiastically call out whataboutery elsewhere are deploying it with about as much flair and credibility as one of OFF’s “must dash, game day” posts.

Worth remembering that Israel helped spawn Hamas as a way to crush the secular nationalism of Yasser Arafat's PLO. The US did same thing with Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Better to remind both Hamas and the Israeli government that humanitarian law makes it a war crime to target or indiscriminately fire on civilians.

Who’s going to do the reminding?

Be nice if the U.N did it.

FrankOFile wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:58 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:17 am

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:33 am https://www.youtube.com/live/leYjjKZtK38?feature=share

OK - I clearly got that one wrong. Whilst I feel for the guy and am amazed that he made such a statement, I don’t agree with his views on the State of Israel being a force for good.

What a complete plonker you must be, still scrabbling to find capital to criticise Israel on.
I am sure he would be strengthened by your heart-felt ‘feel for the guy’ nonsense.

Interesting that you instantly disbelieved it. There is no way if the outrage was perpetrated the other way would you have ‘got this wrong’.

Innate prejudices have a way of coming out.

Blimey, you must be desperate to drag this up from ages ago. I’m not going to engage with a complete knobhead so I’ll bid you a cheery goodnight.

BoniO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:16 pm

FrankOFile wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:58 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:17 am

OK - I clearly got that one wrong. Whilst I feel for the guy and am amazed that he made such a statement, I don’t agree with his views on the State of Israel being a force for good.

What a complete plonker you must be, still scrabbling to find capital to criticise Israel on.
I am sure he would be strengthened by your heart-felt ‘feel for the guy’ nonsense.

Interesting that you instantly disbelieved it. There is no way if the outrage was perpetrated the other way would you have ‘got this wrong’.

Innate prejudices have a way of coming out.

Blimey, you must be desperate to drag this up from ages ago. I’m not going to engage with a complete knobhead so I’ll bid you a cheery goodnight.

I wasn’t aware there was a time limit on stupidity.

There’s only one knobhead here and you fit the template for it, cheery goodnight or not.

Too many people on this thread acting like the two sides fighting, point their fingers and blaming each other.

Both sides are guilty, both sides committing awful acts to each other of the last 70 years. I hope the fighting and senseless killing ends soon and peace or at the very least a cease fire can be agreed very soon with hostages being returned to their families.