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He certainly is. It's just his racism is deemed ok by sections of the left.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:52 am

Frogger wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:54 pm The fact he is so far out in front shows what an awful bunch of candidates are in the running. To be honest though it's about right for this current Tory party, full of charlatanes, dishonest, mindless buffoons. He is just one comment away from a "grab them by the p*ssy" the thought of this moron being our PM feels me with utter dread and despair. What's worse is that Corbyn is just as big a pr*ck and racist as Boris.

Sadly both major parties suffer from a lack of decent leadership. I cannot remember a time when I’ve been so dissolusioned with the state of UK politics. God help us.

And yes, both JerCo and BoJo have racist tendencies.

Ah yes. All those times Jeremy has referred to Africans as picanninies with watermelon smiles, or saying muslims wearing burkas look like post boxes, or laughing about the dead in Libya or so on and so forth.

Look here https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/u ... -and-slurs. Alexander de Pfeffel Johnson shows himself as a racist, misogynistic, homophobic c*** time and time again. Yet it's ok cos he's got funny hair and went to Eton.

Here's Johnny!


"When you look back at British history, you cannot image Disraeli, Gladstone, Churchill or Thatcher, even in their most difficult period, saying ‘let us put parliament aside while I carry through this difficult policy’ … it is fundamentally unconstitutional … and to hear that argument come from the people who in the Brexit debate talked about parliamentary sovereignty being at stake, it is not just fundamentally distasteful, it is hypocrisy on a gold-plated standard.”

He added: “I don’t think that can possibly be allowed to stand. I don’t think the House of Commons will allow it to stand.

“I don’t think anybody who proposes that, or even let it flit through their mind for a second, has any understanding of what parliament is about, what sovereignty is about, what leadership is about, or what the UK is about and the sooner the House of Commons stamps on the idea absolutely, comprehensibly and forever, the better.”

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:57 am

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:52 am

Frogger wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:54 pm The fact he is so far out in front shows what an awful bunch of candidates are in the running. To be honest though it's about right for this current Tory party, full of charlatanes, dishonest, mindless buffoons. He is just one comment away from a "grab them by the p*ssy" the thought of this moron being our PM feels me with utter dread and despair. What's worse is that Corbyn is just as big a pr*ck and racist as Boris.

Sadly both major parties suffer from a lack of decent leadership. I cannot remember a time when I’ve been so dissolusioned with the state of UK politics. God help us.

And yes, both JerCo and BoJo have racist tendencies.

Don't be a Stupidhead.

There isn't a racist bone in JCs body. Ask yourself which one of the two has fought racism all of his political life and which one makes racist comments on a regular basis. Just often enough to give his racist supporters what they need to hear.

When I here this "all his life" stuff it makes me smile. Always think back to Dr Harold Shipman. He spent "all his life" learning how heal people, to look after them, to take good care of them. Even took an Oath to do so. People spoke highly of his dedication. Yet behind this façade was a very different person.

The point being that just to say "all his life" he has spoken against something don't mean that behind this public façade he couldn't be a very different person. its not about what people say, but what they do that matters and its on this latter point he comes up woefully short.

Boris just says stupid things sometimes.

With JC WYSIWYG.

With BJ it's hard to tell since he went in to hiding and on the odd occasion when he breaks cover he refuses to speak. Probably because he can't trust himself not to say something racist or profoundly stupid. I only wish you would take his lead.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:04 pm Boris just says stupid things sometimes.

You don't really believe that, do you?

The comparison to Harold Shipman is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous of dohnuts posts ever.

Wonderful to watch the deflection techniques of the Tory faithful on this thread. The old "hmm, we can't possibly defend Boris so let's attack Jezza instead technique" - that'll distract 'em!

To be fair, it's about the only valid option open to them given Boris's many, many failings (and no positives). Embarrassing.

The Shipman analogy is way, way out there. Kudos to Ankles for that one........

Calm down everyone and take a deep breath........

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:52 pm Wonderful to watch the deflection techniques of the Tory faithful on this thread. The old "hmm, we can't possibly defend Boris so let's attack Jezza instead technique" - that'll distract 'em!

To be fair, it's about the only valid option open to them given Boris's many, many failings (and no positives). Embarrassing.

And bring Harold Shipman into the mix as well.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:31 pm The comparison to Harold Shipman is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous of dohnuts posts ever.

But the principle that what you see is NOT always what you get holds very true, irrespective of the example used. Its the principle that holds true, something I believed people would see.

Frankly its absurd to believe the "what you see is what you get" idea with politicians, or many people for that matter.

Trouble is that some just blindly follow without question, without really looking at what's happening rather than what's being said. The state of the Labour party is testament to the sorry state it is in regarding racism. But some of course choose to believe it a big conspiracy and there nothing wrong.

Anyway this is a Tory thread and there's plenty of sh*t happening there to discuss.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:19 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:31 pm The comparison to Harold Shipman is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous of dohnuts posts ever.

But the principle that what you see is NOT always what you get holds very true, irrespective of the example used. Its the principle that holds true, something I believed people would see.

Frankly its absurd to believe the "what you see is what you get" idea with politicians, or many people for that matter.

Trouble is that some just blindly follow without question, without really looking at what's happening rather than what's being said. The state of the Labour party is testament to the sorry state it is in regarding racism. But some of course choose to believe it a big conspiracy and there nothing wrong.

Anyway this is a Tory thread and there's plenty of sh*t happening there to discuss.

Agreed, this is a Tory thread but that didn't stop you throwing in your personal negative view of the Labour party did it?

Deflection from the much, much worse Tory failings once again. Getting desperate now.

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:24 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:19 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:31 pm The comparison to Harold Shipman is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous of dohnuts posts ever.

But the principle that what you see is NOT always what you get holds very true, irrespective of the example used. Its the principle that holds true, something I believed people would see.

Frankly its absurd to believe the "what you see is what you get" idea with politicians, or many people for that matter.

Trouble is that some just blindly follow without question, without really looking at what's happening rather than what's being said. The state of the Labour party is testament to the sorry state it is in regarding racism. But some of course choose to believe it a big conspiracy and there nothing wrong.

Anyway this is a Tory thread and there's plenty of sh*t happening there to discuss.

Agreed, this is a Tory thread but that didn't stop you throwing in your personal negative view of the Labour party did it?

Deflection from the much, much worse Tory failings once again. Getting desperate now.

Wrong culprit mate. I was responding to a post that brought up Corbyn, not introducing it as a topic. And moved it back to topic too. get a life.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:31 pm The comparison to Harold Shipman is, quite possibly, the most ridiculous of dohnuts posts ever.

Strange you should say that. I liked it and thought it was one of his best to date.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:40 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:24 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:19 pm

But the principle that what you see is NOT always what you get holds very true, irrespective of the example used. Its the principle that holds true, something I believed people would see.

Frankly its absurd to believe the "what you see is what you get" idea with politicians, or many people for that matter.

Trouble is that some just blindly follow without question, without really looking at what's happening rather than what's being said. The state of the Labour party is testament to the sorry state it is in regarding racism. But some of course choose to believe it a big conspiracy and there nothing wrong.

Anyway this is a Tory thread and there's plenty of sh*t happening there to discuss.

Agreed, this is a Tory thread but that didn't stop you throwing in your personal negative view of the Labour party did it?

Deflection from the much, much worse Tory failings once again. Getting desperate now.

Wrong culprit mate. I was responding to a post that brought up Corbyn, not introducing it as a topic. And moved it back to topic too. get a life.

Wrong again Ankles, if you're trying to get this thread back on topic i.e how well are the Tories/Boris doing, then why persist in mentioning Labour whenever you can. You're happy enough to point out Labours/Corbyns supposed failing so why don't you take some time to tell us about all of the Tories and Boris's good points (Hint - it won't take you long).

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:40 pm

Wrong culprit mate. I was responding to a post that brought up Corbyn, not introducing it as a topic. And moved it back to topic too. get a life.

Absolute no relent whatsoever.

Remember the days when we used to wind up the poster known as Roger Thornhill because he looked a bit like Harold Shipman? And because he used to do jazz hands goal celebrations? Definitely wasn’t a Tory though. I wonder what happened to Rog? His son was Joe Bloggs. Looks like JB’s signed up here but hasn’t posted.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:54 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:40 pm

Wrong culprit mate. I was responding to a post that brought up Corbyn, not introducing it as a topic. And moved it back to topic too. get a life.

Absolute no relent whatsoever.

what have I said that was incorrect.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:57 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:54 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:40 pm

Wrong culprit mate. I was responding to a post that brought up Corbyn, not introducing it as a topic. And moved it back to topic too. get a life.

Absolute no relent whatsoever.

what have I said that was incorrect.

No stopping him.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:02 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:57 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:54 pm

Absolute no relent whatsoever.

what have I said that was incorrect.

No stopping him.

You certainly haven't the brains to stop me. I'm quite happy to carry on and watch the reaction. I wonder who is really having the best laugh? me I think.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:11 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:02 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:57 pm

what have I said that was incorrect.

No stopping him.

You certainly haven't the brains to stop me. I'm quite happy to carry on and watch the reaction. I wonder who is really having the best laugh? me I think.

Laugh away old chap. Fill yer boots! Just as long as you're not trying to make any valid points that's fine.

BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:22 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:11 pm

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:02 pm

No stopping him.

You certainly haven't the brains to stop me. I'm quite happy to carry on and watch the reaction. I wonder who is really having the best laugh? me I think.

Laugh away old chap. Fill yer boots! Just as long as you're not trying to make any valid points that's fine.

You wouldn't recognise a valid point if it hit you in the face. Too blinkered. That's what makes me laugh. and Yup, I will carry on, thanks for the permission. But its not needed. PS. I await the reaction with baited breath.

Latest YouGov poll puts the Tories 4th. For the thick gammons on the board, let me spell 4th for you - L-A-S-T.

They are now completely irrelevant and Super Boris ain’t going to make a blind bit of difference.

Dis the poll is in the Brexit party watch thread. Labour ain’t faring any better than the tories, and have lost more percentage points since the last poll by you gov. Think it makes them irrelevant as well.

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:35 pm Latest YouGov poll puts the Tories 4th. For the thick gammons on the board, let me spell 4th for you - L-A-S-T.

They are now completely irrelevant and Super Boris ain’t going to make a blind bit of difference.

He will make a difference. Whether he improves the party is another matter. The only good thing I can say about Boris is that he is only just better than Corbyn. That’s not saying much.

If we had a decent alternative to the big two they would be cashing in. It’s now all about choosing the best of a really bad bunch.