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Re: ulez
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:36 am
by Proposition Joe
Particularly interesting to note the impact on more deprived areas, given some of the pushback often says these policies are only designed to benefit the middle classes and their house prices.
Re: ulez
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:50 am
by Mistadobalina
Guaranteed some people will question the findings because they've been published by the gla and backed up the WHO.
Problem with the idea has always been that it wasn't linked to any immediate transport improvements that make having a car not only unnecessary, but actively worse than not having one. We'll likely get a bakerloo line extension in the nesrish future, which will make the transport black hole of south east London a bit more navigable. And then maybe a DLR extension out east. Impossible in current political and financial climate, but Cross rail 2 would be the necessary next step.
If you go to Paris, they are miles ahead in terms of orbital (cross city) transport Vs our network, which is very much you go in and out of the city, making getting from say Barnet to Walthamstow a nightmare despite not being very far apart.
Re: ulez
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:53 am
by Proposition Joe
Has the Superloop helped in that respect at all? Never seem to be that many people using the routes that go along Hoe Street/Forest Road.
Re: ulez
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:40 am
by Mistadobalina
Tfl have already expanded it and looking to add more routes so presumably it's doing ok, but it's not much of a time saver tbh.
The problem is that most of the major remaining housing sites in London are in pretty difficult to reach places. In places where they're putting the infrastructure in - Old Oak Common and Stratford - they're going to create whole new city centres. But then areas like Barking Riverside, you can only really reach using the Goblin line (I'm not having the rebrand), or most of Thamesmead, are completely inaccessible to most of the city. It's the sort of problem that requires ambitious thinking and complex delivery that we have basically given up on as a country since the HS2 f*ck up. So we'll build the houses anyway and then create dismal cul de sacs that become problem areas 20-30 years down the line.
Re: ulez
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:50 am
by Proposition Joe
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:40 am
the Goblin line (I'm not having the rebrand),
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Re: ulez
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:03 pm
by OyinbO
Just like the smoking ban, lots of reactionary resistance from the usual suspects in the build-up - but within just a few weeks of implementation no-one seriously would want to unwind it.