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faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:50 pm We must also crack down on the irresponsible social media posts that are fuelling the violence.

This is stupid.

Probably not as consequential as your personal w*nk sock Farage peddling conspiracy bollox in the aftermath of a tragedy as an elected MP though.

Is he the guy from hate not hope?

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:34 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:07 pm "Both sidesing" it, is it?

You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.

Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?

No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:20 pm Is he the guy from hate not hope?

Don't think so if you here him talking
Only here for footage

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:32 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:34 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:07 pm "Both sidesing" it, is it?

You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.

Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?

No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.

It's almost like the far right have realised they've gone to far & are now trying to hide under the cover of but what about them

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:32 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:34 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:07 pm "Both sidesing" it, is it?

You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.

Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?

No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.

You post that and you call me a clown

Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.

Looting Greggs

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:40 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:32 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:34 pm

You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.

Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?

No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.

You post that and you call me a clown

Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.

Which side is rioting, looting, attacking Muslims, burning down hotels housing immigrants and attacking Police?


Well it isn’t the left so shut up.

Shoezone, Sports Direct, Greggs...

These northern looters have no class.

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:40 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:32 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:34 pm

You just don't like the fact that there IS another side to this.

Nick Lowles isn't just some random bloke on Twitter, I assume you know who he is?

No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.

You post that and you call me a clown

Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.

No, you're simply removing any lingering doubt as to how silly you are.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:48 pm Shoezone, Sports Direct, Greggs...

These northern looters have no class.

All the steaks and salmon fillets were already shoplifted by the crackheads earlier in the day

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:49 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:40 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:32 pm

No idea who he is. Doesn't even matter. I'm going against my better judgement and assuming you know full well that picking ONE example of someone getting something wrong - who should have checked their facts better and certainly isn't helping anyone by spreading misinformation - doesn't come close to equaling the thousands and thousands of lies told and amplified since Tuesday by far right 'activists' and politicians and is therefore not "another side to this!" If you don't know this, and aren't just being deliberately disingenuous, then absolutely no-one should take anything you say seriously.

You post that and you call me a clown

Look up who he is and see if you revise your opinion a little...I'm simply pointing out the sheer hypocrisy of the left.

No, you're simply removing any lingering doubt as to how silly you are.

Labour MP Josh Fenton-Glynn retweets and spreads misinformation.

All we need now is full-on escalation between Iran, Hezbollah and Israel. That should help calm things down in the UK.

Just patriots protesting about the elites making the streets unsafe

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:45 pm Which side is rioting, looting, attacking Muslims, burning down hotels housing immigrants and attacking Police?

Well it isn’t the left so shut up.

Far right thugs, racist thugs, mindless thugs, what's the point you're trying to make?

What are the sides in this? What are these people protesting? The Southport attacker has been apprehended and he's not an immigrant.

I've avoided posting many images or videos from the last few nights, but some of what is being shared online is beyond anything I ever expected to see on UK streets. It feels like something just got permanently broken.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:17 pm What are the sides in this? What are these people protesting? The Southport attacker has been apprehended and he's not an immigrant.

They're not protesting. They are rioting and looting and beating up black people.

They are the scum of the earth. The dregs of society being flamed up by nazi organisers.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:22 pm I've avoided posting many images or videos from the last few nights, but some of what is being shared online is beyond anything I ever expected to see on UK streets. It feels like something just got permanently broken.

Dark times ahead.

faldO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:17 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:45 pm Which side is rioting, looting, attacking Muslims, burning down hotels housing immigrants and attacking Police?

Well it isn’t the left so shut up.

Far right thugs, racist thugs, mindless thugs, what's the point you're trying to make?

Blimey, well you seemed to be trying to deflect blame from the right by highlighting a single dumb post. As others have pointed out this is of almost zero consequence compared to the absolute torrent of right wing hate posts.

Secondly, it’s the right causing all the civil unrest and violence. It seemed appropriate to point this out to you as you seemed not to notice that.

I guess it’s a bad time to support the far right.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:17 pm What are the sides in this? What are these people protesting? The Southport attacker has been apprehended and he's not an immigrant.

The rioters (or, as should be said, those who are stirring things up online) are not even claiming this has anything to do with Southport anymore. Depending on who you listen to, it's either about resisting Islam or all immigration. Their argument being that they tried the ballot box (I.e. Brexit), but were taken for mugs, so now have to make their feelings known by smashing their town centres to pieces and beating people up.

Although, I doubt 99% of those on the streets have ever thought things through to even that shallow level. They're just there for the sh*ts and giggles of nicking some sausage rolls or setting fire to a hotel with people still inside.

There's now (unverified) videos being circulated of tooled up Muslim gangs attacking white people. This will further fuel the tensions and feed the victim narrative. I'm just amazed there's not been a serious injury or death yet.

I also note that footage of these riots is now being shared by US and European far right social media channels as a call to arms.

Good report on Sky news earlier where a gang of tooled up guys walk past the camera telling the reporter she’s “safe”

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:22 pmThe dregs of society being flamed up by nazi organisers.

I detected from Starmer's limp address earlier that the influencers behind these riots are going to be targeted as part of the law enforcement backlash. Good.

But the article you posted previously made a good point how this has started with underground social media platforms (I.e. Telegram) before being fully propagated on mainstream platforms - namely X. X is a massive elephant in this room.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:22 pm I've avoided posting many images or videos from the last few nights, but some of what is being shared online is beyond anything I ever expected to see on UK streets. It feels like something just got permanently broken.

I thought that after the riots in 2011. It seemed like a mindless subsection of society realised they could do whatever they wanted if they had safety in numbers. And then the repercussions started (can't remember who was in charge of prosecutions at the time).

Fully agree that this feels different as it taps into something deeper/more insidious , but too early to tell whether this is the start of something or the worst it gets. Which to be clear is pretty bad.

Mr Twitter X has spoken