Independent Leyton Orient Forum

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:33 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

Is it an obsession?

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:46 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm What’s the obsession with 352? Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

We have 3 really good centre halves and we don’t have 2 really good central midfielders.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:28 pm

Adz wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:11 pm Angol joins guess he partners Wilkinson with jmd dropping to the bench

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               Brill
       
Judd Happe Coulson Ekpiteta Widdowson

      McAnuff   Clay    Wright
         
      Angol Wilkinson
            
Bench
Sergeant
Ling
Turley
Brophy
Maguire-Drew
Gorman
Harold

Squad
Dayton
Sotiriou
Alabi
Kypriano
Shabani
Ogie
Sweeney
Janata

Jeez if that’s the starting 11 I’ll give up my season ticket now
That’s the worst selection since Basil Brush left the building
Thank god you only tap nonsense on a keyboard

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:45 am With our current group that’s a decent lineup and should be good enough to keep us out of trouble.

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.

Sargeant

Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson

Wright
Clay
JMD

Angol
Wilkinson

Subs:

Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi

Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:57 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.

Sargeant

Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson

Wright
Clay
JMD

Angol
Wilkinson

Subs:

Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi

Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.

Looking at our squad, fit players, other than Judd for Ling, this will give use a better attacking option, that line up seems to work. tbh it wouldn't surprise me to see Happe on the bench with Brophy or Jobi in midfield and JMD playing behind the front two.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:18 pm Let’s play it safe and go 1 9 1

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.

Sargeant

Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson

Wright
Clay
JMD

Angol
Wilkinson

Subs:

Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi

Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:21 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.

Sargeant

Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson

Wright
Clay
JMD

Angol
Wilkinson

Subs:

Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi

Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.

That's a pretty strong looking 18 to me. I'm pleased with those substitute options. Maybe one more player who can change a game would be welcome, but apart from that we're there in my opinion.

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:50 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:21 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:43 pm The 3-5-2 was done out of necessity by JE as our CM was being overrun so easily and we were running out of juice with all the injuries kicking in. Wouldn't want to see it as a preferred tactic as it really negated our attacking threat but with the (lack of) wide and CM cover it may well end up being all we can play.

Sargeant

Ling
Happe
Ekpiteta
Coulson
Widdowson

Wright
Clay
JMD

Angol
Wilkinson

Subs:

Janata
Turley
Judd
Gorman
Brophy
Harrold
Alabi

Taking Brill (mystery injury), Dayton (long-term injury recovery) and McAnuff (mystery injury / coaching) out of the picture really does leave a dearth of pace, width or attacking options.

That's a pretty strong looking 18 to me. I'm pleased with those substitute options. Maybe one more player who can change a game would be welcome, but apart from that we're there in my opinion.

Only until the first suspension / injury from midfield up. Then you've got Alabi or Harrold starting and nothing on the bench. Similar in CM, where you're very likely to get absences more through bookings than anything else.

Defence as per last year is strong but with the caveat of Sargeant in goal instead of Brill as it stands.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

DuvB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:01 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

Did you notice we ended up as Champions?

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:20 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:01 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:44 pm Orient played sh*t with it and had too many players out of position.

Did you notice we ended up as Champions?

Are you suggesting that because we were champions, every game we played majestic, quality football and never badly. Need to wash my glasses.

What we were very good at, a true virtue of champions, was grinding out results even when we sometimes played poo poo. Worked for me, 3 points is the first priority and we did it bloody well. Better than the rest. But don't suggest we never played poo poo.

Buckingham wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:26 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:20 pm

DuvB wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:01 pm

Did you notice we ended up as Champions?

Are you suggesting that because we were champions, every game we played majestic, quality football and never badly. Need to wash my glasses.

What we were very good at, a true virtue of champions, was grinding out results even when we sometimes played poo poo. Worked for me, 3 points is the first priority and we did it bloody well. Better than the rest. But don't suggest we never played poo poo.

i don’t think anybody has claimed that we never played badly under the 352 system. The general gist seems to be that it couldn’t have been that bad a formation seeing as it played a big part in us winning the league.

Adz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:06 am Dennis joins and Ling seems to be favoured to Judd in pre-season

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             Brill
             
     Happe Coulson Ekpiteta
       
Ling                       Widdowson
        Clay    Wright
        
         Maguire-Drew 
        Angol   Dennis
            
Bench
Sergeant
Turley
Brophy
McAnuff
Gorman
Wilkinson
Harold

Squad
Judd
Dayton
Sotiriou
Alabi
Kypriano
Shabani
Ogie
Sweeney
Janata

I reckon that'll be RE's preferred XI. No McAnuff, so I think Judd will be on the bench instead, maybe Ogie though. Think wilkinson will start ahead of Dennis this week and if Angol is ill Harold will start so Dennis and Alabi on the bench.