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The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:53 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:06 pm

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:00 pm

Exactly. No matter what the character of Pomeroy was, and yes it was stupid of him to prolong the argument, especially in this day and age of knife attacks. But the fact is the other guy savagely plunged a knife into his neck and then followed up with another flurry of slashes. The coward almost certainly knew he was going to lose a fist fight so pulled a knife on his victim. Needs locking up for a long time.

''Needs locking up for a long time.''
Does not seem to happen in UK though does it !
In USA, they get far longer jail sentences or even the death penalty.

That'll work. The USA with their longer sentences and death penalty is certainly a deterrent, they don't have anywhere near the amount of murders and violent crime that we have. (Whoops, it's much higher over there)

But at least once they commit the crime they do not come out again in a few years time to do similar crimes again.

Uk

In terms of offending history, 60.1% of the 21,982 had committed previous offences, ranging from one to 583 distinct offences, (adults 61.9%, youths 36.9%). Overall, 12.2% of females and 20.0% of males had reoffended (adult females 11.5% and adult males 19.1%, youth females 19.6% and youth males 32.4%)


Usa

Bureau of Justice Statistics studies have found high rates of recidivism among released prisoners. ... An estimated 68% of released prisoners were arrested within 3 years, 79% within 6 years, and 83% within 9 years.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:33 pm

The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:53 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:06 pm

''Needs locking up for a long time.''
Does not seem to happen in UK though does it !
In USA, they get far longer jail sentences or even the death penalty.

That'll work. The USA with their longer sentences and death penalty is certainly a deterrent, they don't have anywhere near the amount of murders and violent crime that we have. (Whoops, it's much higher over there)

But at least once they commit the crime they do not come out again in a few years time to do similar crimes again.

OK, so it works so well that there are enough murderers and violent offenders around to keep the figures high despite huge numbers that are locked away unable to add to them.

What’s your point fella? It is difficult to fathom it TBH.

Definitely need to be looking across the pond for guidance on how to deal with an aggressor who comes off worse.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 79636.html

Guilty.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/s ... spartanntp

Quite right too.